Tulip Siddiq has resigned.

M0nica

I accept my error theworriedwell, but I was thinking really of cases with some substance, not someone just ringing the Whips up and saying so and so took money from China with no evidence to support it.

Any system is open to misuse, and if it is, rules can be revised.

Been around the patch in senior circles when you're the only non-white in the room, trust me the bosses don't want to be saddled with controversy. Suffice to say the tory MP's only resigned or were sacked more like when due process was completed.

I accept my error theworriedwell, but I was thinking really of cases with some substance, not someone just ringing the Whips up and saying so and so took money from China with no evidence to support it.

Any system is open to misuse, and if it is, rules can be revised.

Kalm

The only reason Tulip had to resign was purely because of having a brown skin and being muslim

Have you got a source for that claim?

M0nica

theworriedwell

MOnica I think you missed my point which wasn't specifically about TS and definitely not about Bangladesh. I was talking about you saying if any allegations are made, even with no proof, people should have to go. That seems dangerous to me and frankly unworkable.

I did not say that.

This is copied from the post I was referring to

Anyone in that particular post has to be the purest of the pure, and if accused, even incorrectly, should immediately step down from the post until proved innocent (or not)

You said allegations I said accused but other than that I think it is what you said.

Kalm

The only reason Tulip had to resign was purely because of having a brown skin and being muslim. Deviant tory ministers didn't resign when convicted of being in breach of the MC because they were white middle aged males. I am no supporter of Tulip Siddiqui and her aunt was basically a corrupt dictator propped up by the racist Modi govt. Racism is alive and kicking sadly.

Kalm Your information is not correct.

Michael Fallon, Priti Patel, Liam Fox, Damian Green. All Conservative ministers, all resigned for breaking the conduct rules.

petra

Witsend
There is a piece in the DM today written by a journalist of Bangladesh origin.
He has tracked her for years. I would imagine he’s cock-a- hoop. 😂

I read it - thanks!👍

Kalm

The only reason Tulip had to resign was purely because of having a brown skin and being muslim. Deviant tory ministers didn't resign when convicted of being in breach of the MC because they were white middle aged males. I am no supporter of Tulip Siddiqui and her aunt was basically a corrupt dictator propped up by the racist Modi govt. Racism is alive and kicking sadly.

That is just silly.

What about Louise Haigh?

The only reason Tulip had to resign was purely because of having a brown skin and being muslim. Deviant tory ministers didn't resign when convicted of being in breach of the MC because they were white middle aged males. I am no supporter of Tulip Siddiqui and her aunt was basically a corrupt dictator propped up by the racist Modi govt. Racism is alive and kicking sadly.

https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202501/medium-164516-https-d1e00ek4ebabms-cloudfront-net-production-0ad7c653-2b0b-4ffd-b0a9-75c748abde5e.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202501/medium-555388-telemmglpict000403510900-17329059204330-trans-nvbqzqnjv4bqecpyj-ieeei2-std-1aookctcexnw6rc-k8sd6hfgng.jpeg

Every picture tells a story!

She does look as if butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.

I hope Starmer isn't a sucker for a pretty face.

Not saying Louise Haigh isn't attractive either, of course but she looks more like a competent woman than sweet little girlie.

Allira Snap!

winterwhite

Agree that TS’s manner is smug and irritating and that it was a silly appointment, but come on - to what extent are we to be held accountable for the misdeeds of our aunts? If TS now moves out of the disputed properties and transparently funds her own accommodation why should she not be given another ministerial post in due course?

Tulip allegedly owns a flat in London gifted to her by someone closely connected to the corrupt Bangladeshi Government, of which her aunt was PM.

The Financial Times reported that one of the properties, a flat in King's Cross, had been given to her by a person connected with the recently ousted Bangladeshi government.

Certainly rather more than a mobile phone.

winterwhite

Agree that TS’s manner is smug and irritating and that it was a silly appointment, but come on - to what extent are we to be held accountable for the misdeeds of our aunts? If TS now moves out of the disputed properties and transparently funds her own accommodation why should she not be given another ministerial post in due course?

She is not accountable for the misdeeds of her aunt. She is however accountable for her own deeds in relation to that aunt, and the evidence as it is presented at the moment, is that she was very close to that aunt and was present with her when major multi million dollar contracts were signed and that over the last 10-15 years her housing has been provided by close business/government associates of her aunt.

Once it has been shown that there is clear blue water between her and everything her aunt and associates did, then she is in the clear. We must also consider what the danger is of her being subjectto blackmail or coercion, by people having, or claiming to have evidence that might incriminate her.

theworriedwell

MOnica I think you missed my point which wasn't specifically about TS and definitely not about Bangladesh. I was talking about you saying if any allegations are made, even with no proof, people should have to go. That seems dangerous to me and frankly unworkable.

I did not say that.

Yes, but in these confusing circumstances I don't find 3/4 weeks strange.

Annewilko

Bixiboo

Totally agree with you FGT but sadly they’ve got over 4 years to ruin the country. Why does no one in the Labour Cabinet have any experience in running a business?

The country is in ruin after 14 years of Tory pillaging.
KS may not have sacked her, he didn't mess around for weeks on end, like a former bumbling PM. Jumped before
she was pushed.

He did prevaricate for a few weeks.

Bixiboo

Totally agree with you FGT but sadly they’ve got over 4 years to ruin the country. Why does no one in the Labour Cabinet have any experience in running a business?

The country is in ruin after 14 years of Tory pillaging.
KS may not have sacked her, he didn't mess around for weeks on end, like a former bumbling PM. Jumped before
she was pushed.

winterwhite 😯 Sorry!

She probably will be, winy0terwhite
The dust has to settle first.
I'll bet Louise Haigh felt a bit miffed, though.

Agree that TS’s manner is smug and irritating and that it was a silly appointment, but come on - to what extent are we to be held accountable for the misdeeds of our aunts? If TS now moves out of the disputed properties and transparently funds her own accommodation why should she not be given another ministerial post in due course?

I've read and read up on this matter and am not clear how far TS personally was involved with her very corrupt family. A very corrupt family does not mean you are corrupt. Should she be castigated because her family has done many wrongs?

I think there were matters she should have disclosed and probably would not have been appointed a minister if she had: I'm going to wait for fuller reports of current investigations before gleefully rushing to judge:

she has a good record as a constituency MP as well as her work to free Nasrin.

Does raise questions about Starmer's advisors in No. 10 and his own judgment.

Surely women are better than their lousy, nasty comments ???

Unbelievable the number of pots on GN.

She's still an MP! No doubt Tulip will be back in another rold when the dust settles.
It was just rather an unfortunate appointment in the first place.

Given that Louise Haigh was dispatched very quickly for a suspected mobile phone fraud it seems strange that Starmer defended Tulip Siddiq for some time even though the anti-corruption Minister had suspected links to corruption in Bangladesh.

Is Sky News a reputable source in your opinion, Susieq62?
I won't quote it in case it's not.

If any corruption is suspected in any public person, they should be suspended while being investigated. It seems she was corrupt so good riddance.

Whatever happened to the Nolan Principles which cover governance of all kinds.