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I.C.E attempts raid on elementary school in Chicago

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Syracute Fri 24-Jan-25 23:36:13

I have never started a thread before but I find this attempted raid on an elementary school in Chicago today beyond appalling . I have family that are teachers in the USA . Now teachers not only need to defend their students against gunmen but their own government as well . I don’t do it as often as I should but I will write my Congressman and Senator . This is disgusting and unacceptable !

Wyllow3 Thu 30-Jan-25 00:23:26

I'd be interested in what speech too. All on U tube. I shall never forget his farewell speech.

Here are the final 1.29 minutes of that speech.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWRmBjFxttc

Casdon Wed 29-Jan-25 21:49:11

Rula

Does anyone remember the speech by Obama? Was there an outcry then?

Please post the speech you’re talking about Rula, people aren’t mind readers to know what you’re referring to when you say ‘the speech’?

Rula Wed 29-Jan-25 21:36:52

Does anyone remember the speech by Obama? Was there an outcry then?

MaizieD Wed 29-Jan-25 21:33:30

Claremont

Remember that it is not that long ago that teachers, doctors, neighbours and so many ordinary people would have been asked to denounce Jewish children- Anne Frank comes to mind. And that helping them would have led to loss of life for those hiding or helping them.

The USA is a big, big, place. Could rebellious States be held in check by the military?

Power does ultimately depend on having control of the armed forces. Would Trump actually be able to control enough forces to subjugate all 51 states?

imaround Wed 29-Jan-25 21:04:53

They have ordered Gitmo opened and it is being readied to hold 30,000 deported migrants.

petra Wed 29-Jan-25 17:59:53

Whitewavemark2

If you don’t stand up to a bully, it will never end.

Someone has to grow a pair. I am assuming that Canada will stand up to him?

I doubt if Canada will step up. They have immigration problems of their own.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9z5rpgkyeo

Claremont Wed 29-Jan-25 17:27:58

Remember that it is not that long ago that teachers, doctors, neighbours and so many ordinary people would have been asked to denounce Jewish children- Anne Frank comes to mind. And that helping them would have led to loss of life for those hiding or helping them.

Wyllow3 Mon 27-Jan-25 10:17:48

There is already a US military base on Greenland. Defence? Greenland is rich in rare minerals, look that way.

I don't see how anyone can back ICE snatching any undocumented person away and breaking up families, atm they say they are only targeting criminals - news and concerns here

www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/acting-deputy-attorney-general-emil-bove-chicago-immigration/

Allsorts Mon 27-Jan-25 07:30:22

Glad I don't live there, but only they can sort it I’m afraid. If you enter any country illegally of course you cannot stay, its the way its enforced and more deterrent needed before they arrive.

David49 Mon 27-Jan-25 07:09:27

Columbia is has enough problems of its own without picking a fight with the US, they have a major war with drug gangs. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the US to want control of its borders.

The US needs migrants, just like us it wants to control who is allowed in, Biden had a virtual open border, picking up those that crossed and shipping them to cities across the country. There isnt going to be a big falling out with Mexico, or Canada as with Columbia a deal will be done in the interest of both.

Greenland is different, the US would be really stupid to allow China or Russia to establish influence there, certainly not military bases. They could walk in tomorrow, my guess is they won’t but it will be a continuing issue whoever is governing the US.

imaround Mon 27-Jan-25 02:12:52

Yes, and I am loving the Mexican president right now.

Steel factories in Canada and Mexico have stopped taking orders from.US customers in anticipation of tariffs. It is good to know they aren't messing around.

I hope the EU flexes too honestly. They don't seem to have much patience for him.

He apparently had a phone call with Greenland and that didn't end well. I am seeing reports of him threatening Greenland again too.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 27-Jan-25 01:53:44

If you don’t stand up to a bully, it will never end.

Someone has to grow a pair. I am assuming that Canada will stand up to him?

imaround Mon 27-Jan-25 01:41:04

I completely understand it. Ot really is best for both countries not to have tariffs.

It is just another disappointment to see more people bend to his will. It gets more and more likely that no one is going to help us stop this madness, if that makes sense.

Wyllow3 Mon 27-Jan-25 01:26:05

There are other factors at play tho - Columbia has received millions of dollars of aid over the years, they are not in a strong position. (Aid to "stabilise" government, re the drug trade, etc)

imaround Mon 27-Jan-25 00:47:26

Seems as though Columbia caved and is now willing to work with him.

Probably best for everyone, bit it will encourage him.

Wyllow3 Mon 27-Jan-25 00:00:38

thehill.com/policy/international/5107874-colombia-petro-us-trump-tariffs-migrant-planes/

Wyllow3 Mon 27-Jan-25 00:00:22

Just read it, Columbia has now responded by putting tariffs on US goods!

imaround Sun 26-Jan-25 23:46:15

Trump has set quotas for the number of migrants he wants rounded up each day. 1,200 to 1,500.

South American counties are refusing the planes because they say the way they were flown, chained and on military planes, is a human rights violation.

In response to Columbia refusing his plane, he has ordered a 25% tariff on anything from the country.

The cost of coffee, sugar, spices and fruit are about to increase dramatically.

MaizieD Sun 26-Jan-25 21:43:58

Claremont

The previous poster, of course, seemed clear.

It’s not particularly clear. It’s better to quote from their post or to name them if you’re replying to a specific poster.

Claremont Sun 26-Jan-25 19:56:48

The previous poster, of course, seemed clear.

Oreo Sun 26-Jan-25 19:32:10

Who are you asking these questions?

Claremont Sun 26-Jan-25 19:28:11

May I ask (and of course xou may choose not to answer) but are you a Christian, by any chance?

Will Catholic Priests be expected to denounce any Hispanics from their Church too?

Claremont Sun 26-Jan-25 19:24:38

So you do expect caring teachers to identify children from their classes they suspect of having 'illegal immigrant parents'.

Just as Hitler expected teachers and other official to do so with Jewish children in the 30s? Just be clear. Doctors too.

Oreo Sun 26-Jan-25 18:53:32

David49

They are illegal, if I overstay my US visa I get arrested and put on a flight straight back home, I have broken the law so I am an illegal alien.

End of .

Exactly this.

Claremont Sun 26-Jan-25 18:07:56

imaround

2 states are working at creating a bounty hunting program for migrants.

fox2now.com/news/missouri/these-new-missouri-bills-target-immigration-1k-bounty-for-undocumented-immigrants/

www.foxnews.com/politics/mississippi-bill-would-pay-bounty-hunters-reward-help-catch-illegal-immigrants

Thank you from me too. We all need to know what is happening. In 1933, the rest of the world closed their eyes - and the Churches too. It didn't go well.

Oreo wrote 'I never even read whatever it was that you posted' - so how can she even begin to make such accusations of 'hysteria' sad so so wrong.