The Guardian reports that Trump says all Palestinians should move out of Gaza

I think Trump does distinguish Gaza’s civilians from terrorist Hamas, his plan is to stop the civilian deaths, he thinks the whole of Gazas civilians held hostage to by Hamas.

My concerns are that Trumps precipitous actions will endanger all, Annie.

So much separation, Hamas and Palestinians.

Jews and Zionists.

JenniferEccles

Trump was just saying what he would do about the hostage situation.
He then stressed that of course it was up to Israel how they responded to the latest situation.

Once all the hostages are released, hopefully soon, the burning question will be what to do with the Palestinians.

They have proved after the September 7 massacre that they can’t be trusted to live in close proximity to Israel.

Jordan doesn’t want them, understandably knowing that among the Gazan population will be a substantial number of Hamas terrorists and their supporters.
Why would they put their country at risk?

Like everyone I have no idea what the answer is, but one thing is clear.
Wherever they end up they will need to be strictly controlled to ensure the atrocities against the poor Israelis can never be repeated.

But he doesn't say what he would do.

Again, you conflate ordinary Palestinians with Hamas, and fail to recognise they too, have suffered.

Good grief, I wanted to find any info re Palestinian prisoners
being starved snd physically attacked by Israel.their loudest
supporter in the world of journalists - Yvonne Ridley,

I wouldn’t bet money on Hamas releasing the hostages they don’t care how many civilians are killed, propaganda is their only weapon. Trump is trying to remove that.

Trump was just saying what he would do about the hostage situation.
He then stressed that of course it was up to Israel how they responded to the latest situation.

Once all the hostages are released, hopefully soon, the burning question will be what to do with the Palestinians.

They have proved after the September 7 massacre that they can’t be trusted to live in close proximity to Israel.

Jordan doesn’t want them, understandably knowing that among the Gazan population will be a substantial number of Hamas terrorists and their supporters.
Why would they put their country at risk?

Like everyone I have no idea what the answer is, but one thing is clear.
Wherever they end up they will need to be strictly controlled to ensure the atrocities against the poor Israelis can never be repeated.

Out of interest, Oreo, since you remarked on the hostage situation but didn't mention what has just happened.

Why ask me?

Oreo, how do Trumps threats help the hostage situation?

Babs03

Trump declaring all hell will break loose on Saturday if all the hostages aren’t released might want to consider that all hell has broken loose in Gaza with over 50,000 dead and hardly any buildings left standing.
What other kind of hell has he in mind -
to nuke Gaza. And how does this help with a very tenuous ceasefire during which hostages can be released. If all hell breaks loose in Gaza I doubt any hostages will now be released alive.
The reason why the hostages are being released a few at a time is so that Gaza can enjoy a longer ceasefire during which they can actually move back to where their homes were and look for dead family members.

The reason the hostages are only being released a few at a time is nothing to do with the reason that you give, or is that the hamas line?
It’s to string things out as long as hamas can possibly do in order to re-arm and plan attacks in the event of a collapsed ceasefire, the hostages are the only aces in the hand they hold.
Left to hamas the hostage release would take another six months.

Gosh, I am concerned that anyone would refrain from posting
photographs of starving Palestinian prisoner because I would criticise them .

As I said before, Trump should have worked with the Israelis, not issued war like edicts carelessly thrown out.

Meanwhile re `Jordan, as Trump is seeing the king today

"President Trump has threatened to withhold economic aid from Jordan if it, along with Egypt, won’t accept Palestinians from Gaza.

Jordan has rejected the idea as a fundamental breach of international law.

The country is making it clear - behind the scenes - it views the Trump proposal as posing an existential threat to Jordan itself.

The idea of hosting expelled Palestinians wrenches at the kingdom’s already weakened fault lines. Its population includes millions descended from Palestinian refugees forced from the land that became Israel in 1948, alongside those whose roots lie firmly east of the River Jordan.

The country has also absorbed waves of refugees from Syria.
That in a state reliant on US economic assistance means King Abdullah’s message to Trump is likely to be blunt:

his Gaza transfer plan could unleash chaos in Jordan and undermine decades of relative stability with its neighbour Israel.

(BBC newsfeed for today)

Israel needs its reasonable relationships with Jordan and Egypt - delicate as they are - not to be over turned. It is not, repeat not, good news for the Israeli people, hostility with nearest neighbours. They should have a chance to have a say.

Oh Annie- there are many photos of Palestinian prisoners including children, who have come out of Israeli prisons loooking just like they'd come out of concentration camp- with torture injuries. But you will never see them- Israelis won't show them to you, and neither will the world Press. And if any of us copied them on here, you would say 'ah, come from that side, so can't be verified or trusted'. And of course, no photos of all the ones who just disappeared never to be seen again- just 'gone' and their families will never know what happened to them.

Trump and Netanyahu will take us in a much bigger war if they take over Gaza, exclude those still left, included all the injured, maimed physically and psychologically. And no better way to multiply the numbers of innocents who will become the most determined freedom fighters, which you will call terrorists. It will not end well, for anyone. Not for the hostages left, not for the 100s and possibly 1000s of Palestinians still in Israeli prisons, not for either side- not for Jews all over the world, whether they support Netanyahu or not. So many Jews are afraid all over the world of retaliation, including all those who oppose what is being done in their name to the Palestinians.

And not for anyone- as they may well take us all down with them. At the moment the risk of WW3 seems more likely to come from there than from Russia, tragically.

Best to have waited to see if hostage arrangements could negotiate, continue, and people on both sides have the cease fire holding.

People in Israel waiting for hostages to be returned have every reason to fear Trumps deadline of all hell let loose. I think as least Israel should have been consulted - but he didn't, as he admitted himself
FGS, this was a case for carrot not stick for the best interests of hostages.

Trump is definitely not going to make the situation better for either side or the region.
His rhetoric is inflammatory and damaging.

Hamas releases three men so starved they are being compared
with Holocaust victims. Then Hamas releases they may stop the ceasefire, then Ttump spesks result - attention from Hamas
and given to Trump,
Hamas may have decided to stop ceasefire and all fault on
Trump

Wyllow3

I don't think it was ever his intention to cut arms to Israel tho.

Because of the high death rate in Gaza Bidendid “restrain” Israel threatening to restrict arms supply, the show of defiance by Hamas during the hostage release shows that they have no intention of loosing their grip on Gaza.

Trump declaring all hell will break loose on Saturday if all the hostages aren’t released might want to consider that all hell has broken loose in Gaza with over 50,000 dead and hardly any buildings left standing.
What other kind of hell has he in mind -
to nuke Gaza. And how does this help with a very tenuous ceasefire during which hostages can be released. If all hell breaks loose in Gaza I doubt any hostages will now be released alive.
The reason why the hostages are being released a few at a time is so that Gaza can enjoy a longer ceasefire during which they can actually move back to where their homes were and look for dead family members.

I don't think it was ever his intention to cut arms to Israel tho.

Wyllow3

Of course we want the hostages released, but how will Trumps threats help?
What can he actually do?

Sounds to me like an arrogant forcing more war that could rebound on Israelis.

If Gaza or their supporters don’t cooperate he has an excuse to continue arms supply to Israel, in his mind at least.
Despite predictions Israel has won on every front in the last 2 yrs at a very low cost.

Hamas had declared they may stop the ceasefire before the Trump piece was mentioned, now it’s claimed he said it before
Monday, strange, if he sneezes there is a thread on GransNet,
not a mention last Saturday

Of course we want the hostages released, but how will Trumps threats help?
What can he actually do?

Sounds to me like an arrogant forcing more war that could rebound on Israelis.

But he's not a warmonger, is he?

No wars during his first term

He doesn't want a war. He wants the hostages released, as should any decent person.

Hamas said they weren't going to release the 3 hostages this weekend due to Israel breaching the ceasefire .

The threat of stopping the ceasefire from Hamas was announced before your Trump piece was announced ,
Hamas will be soooo pleased