The Guardian reports that Trump says all Palestinians should move out of Gaza

For the Palestinians, Hamas is the problem.
I see no happy ending as long as Hamas are there, and I don’t see them going anywhere.

Netanyahu is invited to discuss the future of the Middle East with Trump, tomorrow.

maddyone

I don’t have an opinion about whether Egypt should or shouldn’t take them I was merely pointing out that the Egyptians don’t want them, and neither it appears, does anyone else.
It is merely my opinion, but as long as the Palestinians have Hamas so obviously in charge, no one will want them.

I may be wrong about that.

I doubt if Egypt would accept large-scale immigration from Gaza anyway. To outsiders, they might all seem like Muslim Arabs, but in reality Egyptians and Gazans are two very distinct ethnic groups with their own cultures and histories.

The only glimmer of hope is that Saudi Arabia is putting pressure on Trump to insist that no Palestinians are displaced. Trump wants to be seen as the President who sorted it out - he also wants to be on good terms with Saudi Arabia - so he might threaten to withhold support for Israel, if it doesn't go along with US/Saudi plans, no doubt supported by most other countries in the Middle East, who (as you've pointed out) don't want to be flooded with millions of refugees (in addition to the ones they already have).

Do you speak Hebrew? Maybe you could check it too.

I hesitate to share Facebook links, but it is the only one I have.

www.facebook.com/reel/2671905996333323

maddyone

Claremont

Just watched a video, in a private setting, of Netanyahu planning massive attacks on Palestinians such as we have seen recently. That was in 2001.

Sure.

Yes, just had friends whose MT is Hebrew to check it, and they were VERY shocked. Don't know how to share it.

Gaza has been dependent on international aid for a very long time, and will continue to be, whoever is in charge, in order for any rebuilding to take place. As I said above, we cannot know how many Palestinians really want Hammas.

Surely most ordinary citizens on both sides of the border want to keep a cease fire.

David49

maddyone

I don’t have an opinion about whether Egypt should or shouldn’t take them I was merely pointing out that the Egyptians don’t want them, and neither it appears, does anyone else.
It is merely my opinion, but as long as the Palestinians have Hamas so obviously in charge, no one will want them.

I may be wrong about that.

Regrettably that is the reality, there will be no solution or rebuilding with Hamas in control the Gazans have to realize that.
Moreover nobody is going to take part in a peace keeping force with Hamas still in Gaza.

It's a really dire situation for Palestinians who just want to survive.. I wonder how many people are not influenced or controlled by Hammas

maddyone

I don’t have an opinion about whether Egypt should or shouldn’t take them I was merely pointing out that the Egyptians don’t want them, and neither it appears, does anyone else.
It is merely my opinion, but as long as the Palestinians have Hamas so obviously in charge, no one will want them.

I may be wrong about that.

Regrettably that is the reality, there will be no solution or rebuilding with Hamas in control the Gazans have to realize that.
Moreover nobody is going to take part in a peace keeping force with Hamas still in Gaza.

I don’t have an opinion about whether Egypt should or shouldn’t take them I was merely pointing out that the Egyptians don’t want them, and neither it appears, does anyone else.
It is merely my opinion, but as long as the Palestinians have Hamas so obviously in charge, no one will want them.

I may be wrong about that.

maddyone

I watched a news report this evening, think it was SkyNews, and it was showing children from Gaza who need further treatment being taken from Gaza to Egypt, through the Rafa (I think) newly opened crossing. The journalist asked an Egyptian official if the children could stay in Egypt once they’re recovered. The reply was an emphatic no.He said they will have to return to Gaza. It seems no other country wants the Palestinians.

Why should Egypt take them? Egypt already has over 800,000 refugees mainly from Sudan and Syria. It has a fragile government. Two heads of state have been deposed in the last 12 years. The Arab Spring will be fresh in people's minds. The Arab Spring was led by the Muslim Brotherhood, which started off doing a lot of good but became more extreme and condoned violence against its enemies. Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, so it's no surprise that Egypt wants to protect itself.

Claremont

Just watched a video, in a private setting, of Netanyahu planning massive attacks on Palestinians such as we have seen recently. That was in 2001.

Sure.

Meanwhile here is a link to what a terror army does:
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/02/surgeon-gaza-children-britain-sniper-fire-drones-labour-arms-israel
Need to educate ourselves on 1933 history, first you denigrate a population of "howling and chanting" (in reality the chants were prayers and thanking Allah/God, and showing steadfastness- but who cares about nuance. Then one can make the case for extermination of those people.
The framing (BBC and Sky) as uncultured and backward, I mean look at those released POW from Israeli capture; brown faces with beards, as if to say they somehow escaped prison. NO they were legally released iaw Israeli law.

the 1939 Popeye version was a classic demonisation of the arab world....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EtxCOExZtM

So no link .

Just watched a video, in a private setting, of Netanyahu planning massive attacks on Palestinians such as we have seen recently. That was in 2001.

Why can that be, because of Hamas ?

The baying of the crowd was a shock, so many

I watched a news report this evening, think it was SkyNews, and it was showing children from Gaza who need further treatment being taken from Gaza to Egypt, through the Rafa (I think) newly opened crossing. The journalist asked an Egyptian official if the children could stay in Egypt once they’re recovered. The reply was an emphatic no.He said they will have to return to Gaza. It seems no other country wants the Palestinians.

I expect the Gazans will continue to live in tents until things are rebuilt in the future, but there is now massive amounts of aid going in to help them.
Unfortunately it seems that there are plenty of hamas supporters still if the baying crowds surrounding the hostages on their release is anything to go by.

Anniebach

So now it’s what one thinks a poster is suggesting

Sorry, I do not understand this post.

Gazans dont have to go anywhere and I would be very surprised if they do, because nobody wants the trouble they cause.

They could reject Hamas and the other terrorist groups and live in peace alongside Israel, while Hamas has the support of the UN and many other countries that is not going to happen. They can live in the land of their forefathers in exactly the way the Jews want to, both sides have to change.

So now it’s what one thinks a poster is suggesting

growstuff

Anniebach

An agency of UN doesn’t work for the UN , really!

There's no point giving a reply to people who won't listen.

I have been keeping away- for that reason. Only being prepared to look at ONE side and ONE side only, to the point of suggesting the other side should just leave, is just impossible.

IT IS THEIR HOME!

I have no answer sorry. I just questioned

Anniebach

Would anyone want to return if their family was being starved?

So where do you think they should go?

Would anyone want to return if their family was being starved?

eazybee

I cannot imagine why anyone would want to return to Gaza with Hamas clearly in control.
Unless of course, they support them.

It's quite simple, it's their home, their birthright, gives meaning to their lives. Of course they'll want to return home - whoever is in control.

How can you know what they really feel? What they feel safe to say? What alternatives they actually have?