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The Guardian reports that Trump says all Palestinians should move out of Gaza

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Claremont Sun 26-Jan-25 18:31:18

as he agrees to deliver a massive number of bombs for the IDF- so they can clear the country.

Are they planning the Ben Gurrion Canal yet- was it was this is all about, as some suspected a long time ago.

Call me cynical andpessimistic. Where on earth are they supposed to go?

Aveline Fri 14-Feb-25 18:41:55

Anniebach check how the Israelis were treating Palestinians in Gaza and in the West Bank over the past few years. They were behaving like bullies.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Feb-25 16:56:21

Anniebach

Being attacked by six countries as the world was reeling over the Holocaust, that was acceptable behaviour

?

Anniebach Fri 14-Feb-25 16:55:16

Being attacked by six countries as the world was reeling over the Holocaust, that was acceptable behaviour

Claremont Fri 14-Feb-25 16:52:13

I am so sorry Annieb. That is the truth.

I am aware that you don't want to, or can't, see it.

pascal30 Fri 14-Feb-25 16:51:21

Whitewavemark2

Anniebach

Because Israel defended itself

No because Israel is behaving beyond acceptable behaviour, and has done so for decades.

I completely agree WW2

Anniebach Fri 14-Feb-25 16:49:03

Not true

Aveline Fri 14-Feb-25 16:40:26

Agree Whitewavemark2

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Feb-25 16:38:39

Anniebach

Because Israel defended itself

No because Israel is behaving beyond acceptable behaviour, and has done so for decades.

Anniebach Fri 14-Feb-25 16:33:19

Because Israel defended itself

Claremont Fri 14-Feb-25 16:32:13

What has happened recently in Palestine, and is going to happen in near future, will make antisemitism rise as never before. And that is part of the current tragedy.

Anniebach Fri 14-Feb-25 16:18:22

Antisemitism is rising in America, more so in universities,
Jews have never been safe, 1948 a country Al last, then Arab Israeli war , six countries attacked

Aveline Fri 14-Feb-25 15:31:07

AnniebachI suspect they'd be safe enough in America though.

Anniebach Fri 14-Feb-25 14:57:26

Quote Aveline Fri 14-Feb-25 12:49:09
I read a letter in our local paper with an alternative suggestion for Trump's plan to rebuild Gaza having got rid of all the Palestinians. Why not simply rehouse all the Israelis in a relatively unpopulated state in America?!

Many Jews went to America when Russia wanted them out,then Germany came up with an idea !

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Feb-25 14:27:03

David49

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

‘Forfeited all its sympathetic vote’
Ye Gods!
I would say it’s hamas and supporters whose behaviour has been beyond the pale for a number of years.

This is not as I’m sure you know an either/or situation.

So you think it’s OK for Hamas to take hostages and rid Israel of Jews, using Gazas civilians as propaganda human sacrifices.

No

pascal30 Fri 14-Feb-25 13:33:05

I watched her with dismay as well.. I think Victoria Derbyshire is a truly remarkable interviewer.. I love Newsnight..

Claremont Fri 14-Feb-25 13:26:41

Gorka was just such an incredibly rude, horrible bully in the interview with Victoria. Perhaps this woman was even worse,

www.facebook.com/share/r/12GhVoZFjid/

pascal30 Fri 14-Feb-25 13:24:48

A state of Zion within the USA.. an interesting idea and it would certainly be well defended..

Aveline Fri 14-Feb-25 12:49:09

I read a letter in our local paper with an alternative suggestion for Trump's plan to rebuild Gaza having got rid of all the Palestinians. Why not simply rehouse all the Israelis in a relatively unpopulated state in America?!

Allira Fri 14-Feb-25 12:24:09

it is genocide
That is a misuse of the word genocide.

Contrast what happened in the Nazi concentration camps with press photos of Hamas handing over Israeli hostages. Do Hamas operatives and the jeering crowds of men look as if they are victims of a holocaust, does it look like genocide?

Women and children may be suffering greatly as a result of this war but these men do not look as if they are suffering. The women and children are their human shields.

There is propaganda coming from both sides as thers always is in conflicts.

David49 Fri 14-Feb-25 12:23:57

Elegran

Don't you think, David if that is so, that Israeli leaders are intelligent enough to have realised it and called their bluff by NOT treating them as secondclass and encouraging settlers to push them off their Gaza lands? Or to NOT make a bad situation worse by flattening Gaza and escalating their response to the October incident by tens and hundreds of times of deaths and the intended annihilation of the Palestinians? We know that the Old Testament ethos was "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" and that much retribution would probably have been accepted, but multiplying the punishment so much is not justice, it is genocide.

Hamas didn’t start the war to avenge the loss of land in the West Bank it was started to rid Israel of Jews.

Elegran Fri 14-Feb-25 12:10:30

Don't you think, David if that is so, that Israeli leaders are intelligent enough to have realised it and called their bluff by NOT treating them as secondclass and encouraging settlers to push them off their Gaza lands? Or to NOT make a bad situation worse by flattening Gaza and escalating their response to the October incident by tens and hundreds of times of deaths and the intended annihilation of the Palestinians? We know that the Old Testament ethos was "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" and that much retribution would probably have been accepted, but multiplying the punishment so much is not justice, it is genocide.

Allira Fri 14-Feb-25 12:01:43

Israelis live in Israel.

Zionists may live in many different countries.

Allira Fri 14-Feb-25 12:00:27

Anniebach

Palestinians live in Palestinian, where do Zionists live ?

About 2 million Palestinians live in Israel.

David49 Fri 14-Feb-25 11:43:08

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

‘Forfeited all its sympathetic vote’
Ye Gods!
I would say it’s hamas and supporters whose behaviour has been beyond the pale for a number of years.

This is not as I’m sure you know an either/or situation.

So you think it’s OK for Hamas to take hostages and rid Israel of Jews, using Gazas civilians as propaganda human sacrifices.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Feb-25 11:32:44

Oreo

‘Forfeited all its sympathetic vote’
Ye Gods!
I would say it’s hamas and supporters whose behaviour has been beyond the pale for a number of years.

This is not as I’m sure you know an either/or situation.

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