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Rachel Gives A Thumbs Up To The Third Runway

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mae13 Wed 29-Jan-25 12:11:32

How much will it cost, when will it be completed and can we expect it to solve the Social Care crisis, eliminate Fiscal Drag by increasing the personal tax allowance, fix a badly fractured NHS, deal with escalating knife crime,etc, etc.

Well, Rachel from Accounts? Is this your idea of a Magic Bullet? And will it save your career when Keir decides it's time for a Cabinet re-shuffle?

Allira Thu 30-Jan-25 21:49:01

Not to mention those whose homes are in the way of the third runway at Heathrow.
Never mind, Labour will move a few newts and bats off their habitat and built more homes and property for these people and businesses.

Allira Thu 30-Jan-25 21:46:34

orly

...and she's advocating killing newts and bats as well.

She more of less said they're of no consequence and planning consent should ignore these concerns.

So far she's managed to alienate many pensioners, farmers, small business owners, distressed those running care homes and hospices and now has annoyed the environmentalists.

Quite an achievement in just a few months!

Barleyfields Thu 30-Jan-25 21:46:06

It’s nothing to do with concentrating on more than one thing at a time.

Casdon Thu 30-Jan-25 21:41:24

Barleyfields

Reeves reckons it will be operational within ten years. Cloud cuckoo land. There are much more important things to concentrate on.

Most people (and governments) are able to concentrate on more than one thing at a time though, it’s not like she will personally be building it.

Calendargirl Thu 30-Jan-25 21:36:19

2050?

Well, none of us will be using it then.

Barleyfields Thu 30-Jan-25 17:56:42

Reeves reckons it will be operational within ten years. Cloud cuckoo land. There are much more important things to concentrate on.

pascal30 Thu 30-Jan-25 17:37:37

Apparently the runway wouldn't be completed until 2050 so it's hardly going to improve our economy.. Plus there are loads of backbenchers against it (for ecological reasons) and there are loads of legal loopholes to get through.. but it will involve moving part of the M25 and destroying 2 villages (10.000) homes.. So I really hope it doesn't happen

Skydancer Thu 30-Jan-25 16:46:13

TerriBull

I lived in West London for nearly 40 years, when the children were growing up, they were asthmatic, one had permanent glue ear. Our GP told us that was a common problem with children in the area, combined fumes from M25 and Heathrow. It's going to be a lot worse then.

That’s awful. It’s as if no thought is ever given to the environment or people’s health.

TakeThat7 Thu 30-Jan-25 16:39:25

Ok I admit I probably missed some of her speech Hope she mentioned things like means testing for having to pay TV licence Improving reliability of trains on the Avanti run to help hospitality and businesses and paid work for maybe people with special needs or social anxiety such as picking up all the cans and plastic bottles in the parks and countryside They far outnumber the trees round here And couldn't the metal or plastic be recycle d into park benches and benches in town centres

RSALLAN2002 Thu 30-Jan-25 16:36:08

No problem. Boris Johnson said he would lie down in front of the bulldozers. In relation to the air disaster in Washington today, someone said Regan Airport has only 2 runways making it risky. It has a lot less traffic than Heathrow. Apparently, many USA airports have 3, 4 ot 5 runways.

Barleyfields Thu 30-Jan-25 16:33:49

That’s down to the the train companies, not lack of infrastructure - and Labour’s failure to negotiate service improvements when giving train drivers what they wanted.

TakeThat7 Thu 30-Jan-25 16:29:35

Need big improvements with trains in the north the number of trains regularly cancelled is making train travel so you wonder if it's worth using

orly Thu 30-Jan-25 16:17:50

...and she's advocating killing newts and bats as well.

Barleyfields Thu 30-Jan-25 16:17:30

There is no suggestion of ’more airports’ in London, but the expansion of an existing one. Where in the north do you consider a new airport would assist the growth of the economy Cambia?

Cambia Thu 30-Jan-25 16:07:33

How about more airports in the north instead of more in London! Don’t see how this us going to help growth just more money wasted on consultants and quangos, where are the new hospitals that were promised!

Wyllow3 Thu 30-Jan-25 15:55:50

Barleyfields

She was talking about connecting Oxford and Cambridge because of all the new technology companies in both cities. Nothing to do with any upper middle class (or otherwise) people living there. Improvements to train links in the north were also announced. Did you listen to the speech?

Living in the North, the improved rail links are very welcome indeed and wont take forever. Its a 👏

David49 Thu 30-Jan-25 15:50:55

Jess20

I'm not necessarily in favour but by the time it's built there'll be a very different world with different types of aircraft using different fuel... If it was being built with current aviation in mind I'd seriously object - have lived under the flight path - but it's not, I'm assuming. Things may be very unrecognizable by the time it's built.

Maybe more efficient, quieter less polluting, different no, they need to be aerodynamic and need a runway to take off, any changes will be how we use air travel.
We really should use air travel less and reduce CO2 my guess is we won’t.

Barleyfields Thu 30-Jan-25 15:10:56

She was talking about connecting Oxford and Cambridge because of all the new technology companies in both cities. Nothing to do with any upper middle class (or otherwise) people living there. Improvements to train links in the north were also announced. Did you listen to the speech?

TakeThat7 Thu 30-Jan-25 14:56:26

I don't get why a lot of her speech yesterday was about the wonderful new speed up travel between Oxford and Cambridge Thought they were upper middle class places with a lot going for them and don't most of the upper middle class have cars anyway Some improvement to trains in the North like getting trains running on Sundays again would have been good

Casdon Thu 30-Jan-25 14:34:23

David49

Casdon

I might be completely wrong, but I’d guess that the massive further expansion at East Midlands parkway, which is at the airport/M1/M42 junction announced yesterday has something to do with the reopening of Doncaster. They aren’t far apart, and it would be quite feasible to use Doncaster for more freight, as both airports have only one runway.

EMA a massive freight hub for DHL maybe another carrier wants to use Doncaster

Not just DHL, and it’s a very busy regional airport for passengers too because it serves three cities. I’ve seen the development between the M1/M42, work appears to be ongoing there, so Doncaster’s capacity will be needed I would assume.

Marg75 Thu 30-Jan-25 13:42:44

Rachel who? Oh, sorry, the Chancellor, I thought it was a best friend!

yrhengastan62 Thu 30-Jan-25 13:29:33

Sitting here in South Wales I can't even begin to imagine how this, or any of her other announcements, is going to benefit anyone here. I'm sure those in the North of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland feel the same.

David49 Thu 30-Jan-25 13:02:42

Casdon

I might be completely wrong, but I’d guess that the massive further expansion at East Midlands parkway, which is at the airport/M1/M42 junction announced yesterday has something to do with the reopening of Doncaster. They aren’t far apart, and it would be quite feasible to use Doncaster for more freight, as both airports have only one runway.

EMA a massive freight hub for DHL maybe another carrier wants to use Doncaster

Jess20 Thu 30-Jan-25 12:56:21

I'm not necessarily in favour but by the time it's built there'll be a very different world with different types of aircraft using different fuel... If it was being built with current aviation in mind I'd seriously object - have lived under the flight path - but it's not, I'm assuming. Things may be very unrecognizable by the time it's built.

Allira Thu 30-Jan-25 12:55:07

GrannyGravy13

Hey Ho!

U turn if you want to 😂😂😂