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Where is the celebration?

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fancythat Fri 31-Jan-25 16:09:08

I could go on and on.

But suspect I would just be feeding some people. So I wont.

fancythat Fri 31-Jan-25 16:08:10

Many things have happened in my life in the last 5 years.
As must have for lots of people.

Brexit is a mere drop in the ocean of life.

fancythat Fri 31-Jan-25 16:07:12

My reply was largely in reply to the LizzieDrip post.

fancythat Fri 31-Jan-25 16:06:19

Why do Brexiteers need to celebrate?

We just move on.
As is our way.

Not sure we can be grouped as such, but think we are much more likely to accept. Either way.

I dont dwell on things, Never have.
Move on.
Life too short and all that.

I would go so far as to say, if the Remain posters on the internet are all real, they are made of different stuff, on the whole to those who voted for Brexit.

Which may help explain why they dont seem to grasp how Brexiteers work and operate. At all. If 5 years is anything to go by.

AGAA4 Fri 31-Jan-25 16:04:20

I don't think those who voted Brexit are winners. It's like thinking you've won the lottery to find your share is 20p.

keepingquiet Fri 31-Jan-25 15:44:26

Nothing to celebrate is there? Read a summary on BBC fact checker this morning.

Seems farmers are the worst off...surprise surprise like turkeys voting for Christmas really.

The other conclusion was it is too soon to assess clearly as we are still (and will be for some time) paying compensation for leaving as per the terms agreed by Johnson, as well as some projects being re-introduced (especially the joint scientific research ones and other long term commitments that haven't ended.

Interestingly immigration from EU has dwindled whilst numbers from non- EU countries has shot up, and measures Johnson broght in to encourage overseas students to come and stay as had the biggest impact on overall numbers.

The promised trade deals have been very slow to get going and the so-called EU sovereign laws have mostly been absorbed in to English law and the list is still being worked through and will be for years.

Rather inconclusive then- nothing to celebrate at all- we're still paying money to the EU and getting far less back but hey ho! That's what people voted for...

LizzieDrip Fri 31-Jan-25 15:33:01

It makes me laugh when people say ‘Remainers are just sore losers’.

In fact, Brexiteers are the sorest winners I’ve ever come across. No celebrating their ‘victory’; no explaining to all us ‘misguided remainders’ how Brexit has improved the country.

In fact, they’ve hardly mentioned Brexit for the past 5 years! Hardly a big win then?

If Brexiteers have to get Guido Fawkes to tell us how good it’s been, that suggests they can’t come up with any ideas themselves!

Nannee49 Fri 31-Jan-25 15:21:30

At 06.50 yesterday morning on BBC Breakfast, Lord Alan Sugar declared Brexit "the biggest disaster in his lifetime" and urged the government to beg to rejoin on bended knee. Perhaps the get over it brigade on here have superior financial and political acumen to Lord Sugar?

NotSpaghetti Fri 31-Jan-25 15:21:24

And here's a new "Yougov" poll

yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51500-few-britons-think-brexit-has-been-good-for-anything

NotSpaghetti Fri 31-Jan-25 15:18:50

Some people might like to look at the "opinion" statistics of whether it was right to leave or not. Unfortunately it doesn't come right up to date.

www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/

GrannyGravy13 Fri 31-Jan-25 15:03:05

BlueBelle

Brexit was a total disaster and will continue to be
Totally wrong how it was handled from start to finish and those voting for it are not now accepting that many more now realise the disaster it is
We have split from Europe and now have a ‘best friend’ who is a dangerous idiot instead 😢

BlueBelle we left the EU, the U.K. is still in Europe.

Casdon Fri 31-Jan-25 15:02:39

Are saying, sorry, I missed the end of the sentence.

Casdon Fri 31-Jan-25 15:01:49

fancythat

^because it’s not a question of ‘getting over it’, but of acknowledging our lack of judgment and understanding as a nation^

That is very patronising.
And I will say wrong.
And other words besides.

Mind you, at least there is no more of "tell me why you voted for it. I dont understand it", which went on for about 4 years.

There was a vote.
I say again, people on the internet need to get over it. For their own sakes'.
Yes, goady thread.
Repetitive.
And worse.

I have got to the point of, it puts people who keep doing this sort of thing, in a very bad light.

But hey ho, "only the internet".
Which feels less and less like real life anyway. As the internet ages.

It’s not patronising fancythat, it’s just the reality of where we are, and how we got here. Did you look at the latest YouGov survey I posted, and have you looked at the reports from economists about the impact? It’s not something I’m making up to rile those who voted to leave, it’s what those who understand better than any of us do what it means to us as a nation.

BlueBelle Fri 31-Jan-25 14:59:09

Brexit was a total disaster and will continue to be
Totally wrong how it was handled from start to finish and those voting for it are not now accepting that many more now realise the disaster it is
We have split from Europe and now have a ‘best friend’ who is a dangerous idiot instead 😢

fancythat Fri 31-Jan-25 14:45:48

because it’s not a question of ‘getting over it’, but of acknowledging our lack of judgment and understanding as a nation

That is very patronising.
And I will say wrong.
And other words besides.

Mind you, at least there is no more of "tell me why you voted for it. I dont understand it", which went on for about 4 years.

There was a vote.
I say again, people on the internet need to get over it. For their own sakes'.
Yes, goady thread.
Repetitive.
And worse.

I have got to the point of, it puts people who keep doing this sort of thing, in a very bad light.

But hey ho, "only the internet".
Which feels less and less like real life anyway. As the internet ages.

Casdon Fri 31-Jan-25 14:20:13

People will continue to talk about the impact of Brexit long term, because it’s the biggest and most far reaching decision made in this country in the last fifty years. Trying to shut down discussion is never going to work, because it’s not a question of ‘getting over it’, but of acknowledging our lack of judgment and understanding as a nation, recognising what needs to happen to mitigate the huge impact it is having, and will have on the UK.

Smileless2012 Fri 31-Jan-25 14:12:52

I didn't know until I saw this thread Oreo and I did vote for it. You're right Septima the biggest problem with Brexit was and is that the government didn't anticipate or prepare for it.

fancythat Fri 31-Jan-25 14:09:15

And actually, there is never much talk of a rerun.
I cant possibly think why not!! grin

fancythat Fri 31-Jan-25 14:07:52

Me three.

Doesnt half make people look like sore losers. And then some.

In real life I dont actually know anyone who bangs on about it.

One reason I spend less time on the internet than I used to.
The internet has begun to feel less and less like real life, in the past year or so. Thankfully.

Septimia Fri 31-Jan-25 12:48:47

Me too, Oreo.

To be honest, I could see advantages and disadvantages to both staying and leaving. In the end circumstances meant that I didn't vote.

The biggest problem with Brexit was and is that the government didn't anticipate or prepare for it. Not much effort has been made since as far as I can see...

Oreo Fri 31-Jan-25 12:41:27

This does sound like another goady thread ☹️
Who knew it was 5 years today ! Plus it isn’t a special event day like Valentines or Mothers Day in any case.
I didn’t vote for it but am sick to death of the whining that still goes on.

Casdon Fri 31-Jan-25 12:30:51

Most people think it’s been a disaster for the UK.
yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51500-few-britons-think-brexit-has-been-good-for-anything
The Independent also did an in-depth analysis a few weeks ago.
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-cost-statistics-numbers-five-years-eu-b2689655.html

ronib Fri 31-Jan-25 12:09:54

Save £20 billion a year in net contributions so £100 billion over 5 years. Guido Fawkes sets out the benefits so far. You just need to have a look …..

Whitewavemark2 Fri 31-Jan-25 11:29:17

Brexit - 5 years old today.

There is a huge paucity of benefits and silence in the Brexit ranks.