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Trump has been busy with his plan for Gaza!

(133 Posts)
Sago Wed 05-Feb-25 07:44:05

So Gaza is going to become the new Riviera.

It’s a crazy plan but nothing else has worked.

Kalm Fri 07-Feb-25 20:32:34

Claremont

Anniebach

Jews certainly know about ethnic cleansing, been happening to
them for centuries

They tragically do- so how can they stand by or even support, being part of ethnic cleaning of another people? That is why so many of us just can't understand.

Agree, Which is why I have the greatest of respect not for the kings and queens of Saudi and Jordan or the dictator sisi, but the people who have deserved most of my respect....are the jews who have spoken up. They quite clearly have seen the hard right in UK and USA, trying to manipulate this into a jew/muslim conflict or arab/israeli tension.
It is neither.
Rachel shabi describes this quite fairly; far better than I, the full version is very informative. zeteo.com/p/being-pro-israel-rehabilitates-the
Listen to it a few times for a fuller understanding.

Claremont Fri 07-Feb-25 16:15:43

Whatever he and Netanyahu are planning (and I do believe there is a lot more planned than they say)- it is ILLEGAL and against all International Laws.

How anyone here on GN, or anywhere for that matter, can support them in those plans, is sickingly terrifying.

My bets are on the Ben Gurion Canal project they have been planning together for a very long time- but the Palestinians were in the way in Gaza. Wait and see.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 07-Feb-25 16:00:57

He is still making plans. This may be a runner I think.

Wyllow3 Fri 07-Feb-25 13:03:47

Anniebach

I am surprised so many find Trump a man of his word

He clearly is, on a number of actions in the USA, so yes, it being discussed here.

Wyllow3 Fri 07-Feb-25 12:53:16

(that was an answer to Auntie)

Wyllow3 Fri 07-Feb-25 12:52:14

Clearly not. As such, its a gambit, Trump style: it falls at the first hurdle, the "nice homes" in Egypt and Jordan.

Claremont Fri 07-Feb-25 12:47:12

Anniebach

Jews certainly know about ethnic cleansing, been happening to
them for centuries

They tragically do- so how can they stand by or even support, being part of ethnic cleaning of another people? That is why so many of us just can't understand.

Anniebach Fri 07-Feb-25 12:41:43

I am surprised so many find Trump a man of his word

AuntieE Fri 07-Feb-25 12:35:47

I very much doubt that any Arab country will suddenly be willing to house refugees from Gaza, even if these people should want suddenly to have to move to Egypt, Jordan or anywhere else.

So, I think this is just one more of Trump's ideas that have no real basis for being adopted.

Wyllow3 Fri 07-Feb-25 12:17:53

Thats why I can't understand why some - I emphasis some - are prepared to countenance it in Palestine.

Anniebach Fri 07-Feb-25 12:03:03

Jews certainly know about ethnic cleansing, been happening to
them for centuries

wibblywobblywobblebottom Fri 07-Feb-25 11:49:54

Its called ethnic cleansing.

Anniebach Fri 07-Feb-25 08:18:10

Zionists are Jews

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 07-Feb-25 08:16:17

Not all Jews are Zionists. I know some who are not.

Anniebach Fri 07-Feb-25 08:01:04

Zionists are Jews, to say differently is denial,

susytish Fri 07-Feb-25 07:22:49

It beggars belief that they talk of what to do with Gaza but not why and how it got flattened. The US gave money to bomb it, with the help of other countries, including us.
Talk about why there have been no elections in Gaza.
The intention always was to have a Greater Israel.
There is a difference between Jews and Zionists.
I can't believe Israel didn't know October 7th was planned.

Mojack26 Thu 06-Feb-25 19:34:46

What!?? You agree with him??

Claremont Thu 06-Feb-25 19:25:50

Anniebach

I haven’t read of allegations that Netanyahu and Trump smirked , this is serious, it will definitely change views

Did you not watch them? Netanyahu just smirked.

Anniebach Thu 06-Feb-25 19:21:40

Quote Iam64 Thu 06-Feb-25 19:09:38
Many Jewish people in the UK are talking about going to Israel to get away from anti semitism. More like the 1930’s every day

Lily Ebert,, a victim of the Holocaust, warned last year that
‘It could happened again’

Iam64 Thu 06-Feb-25 19:09:38

Many Jewish people in the UK are talking about going to Israel to get away from anti semitism. More like the 1930’s every day

madeleine45 Thu 06-Feb-25 19:04:59

Now , I keep getting a sense of Deja Vieu. Wasnt there someone else who years ago, decided to take over someone elses country for his own gains.?? Come to think of it , he also spouted evil rubbish against people for their race, religion, or managed to use various lies and invented reasons, to let him carry on with his evil ways.

Now his name is on the tip of my tongue . I'm pretty sure that his name began with A. Oh yes , it was Adolph and we have just been remembering what his dreadful and crazy ideas led to when we looked at the concentration camps . Yes I thought I had heard appalling arrogance, lies, and seen how previously, despite what was being said, nobody stopped him for a very long time. Perhaps the people who ,hopefully in the future ,will be ashamed of actually voting for him, might come to their senses and get rid of him before he does any more damage!!

To think that this deranged self important person, whose view of life is ME ME ME , and is prepared to ignore everyone else , with the manical view that if he says something it must happen, is supposed to be trusted with directing the way things will happen in this world. God help us all

Wyllow3 Thu 06-Feb-25 18:53:03

foxie48

Trump has strengthened Netanyahu's hand, I'll be very surprised if the hostages get released and the ceasefire holds for much longer (but I live in hope!) Trump's position will be taken by the far right in Israel (Smotrich, Ben Givr et al) as a signal of support and it's bringing the Arab countries closer. This is a recipe for a longer war not a long term peace.

Yes, this is my concern, it will crash the peace, and it may be the intention. Threatening a whole population with ethnic cleansing isn't a great way forward in international relationships.

Wyllow3 Thu 06-Feb-25 18:51:21

Not sure what facial expression is appropriate for such a crazy and unworkable plan....

foxie48 Thu 06-Feb-25 18:51:09

Trump has strengthened Netanyahu's hand, I'll be very surprised if the hostages get released and the ceasefire holds for much longer (but I live in hope!) Trump's position will be taken by the far right in Israel (Smotrich, Ben Givr et al) as a signal of support and it's bringing the Arab countries closer. This is a recipe for a longer war not a long term peace.

Anniebach Thu 06-Feb-25 18:47:30

I haven’t read of allegations that Netanyahu and Trump smirked , this is serious, it will definitely change views