Ukraine- the situation is VERY serious

Lovetopaint037

woodenspoon

Much of which doesn’t need to be done always in person. He likes the jollies and the travel.

Unbelievable! Have you really looked at him of late? He is a tired, exhausted man who is striving to stand up for his country.

I was shocked at how white his hair is becoming, and the obvious strain in his face.. He is definitely doing his best and thankfully, if you watch Newsnight, he is being supported cross party..

And increasingly it looks like Russia has indeed been busy undermining Britain for years

Europe as a United force is a threat both to Putin and Trump - obviously for different reasons, but it is clear that they see a good reason to work together I order to weaken Europe.

M0nica

David49 I do not think there is any question of European troops supporting the Ukranian army when actively progressing the war.

The intention is that the European force will act as peacemakers as foreign armies have so many times n the past.

Exactly

M0nica

David49 I do not think there is any question of European troops supporting the Ukranian army when actively progressing the war.

The intention is that the European force will act as peacemakers as foreign armies have so many times n the past.

They can only act as peacemakers if Russia agrees to end the fighting why would he want todo that, what are you going to give him.

He has already said no NATO troops in Ukraine .

David49 I do not think there is any question of European troops supporting the Ukranian army when actively progressing the war.

The intention is that the European force will act as peacemakers as foreign armies have so many times n the past.

Ladyleftfieldlover

Whitewavemark2

Being reported that Macron is joining Starmer in his meeting with Trump.

Europe is beginning to close ranks.

Hooray!

At flipping last.

Europe are closing ranks, so far nobody has committed combat troops, to fight on, we will see what happens next, what worries me is that it’s going to take an army of 100,000 from Europe to retake the occupied land, plus direct attacks on the UK and other countries.

Without the US involved I just don’t see it happening.

Being so tribal that you see no positives in anything Starmer does butters no parsnips wooden spoon.
Badenoch shares Starmer’s views on Ukraine/Trump thankfully, as do the LibDems. We need consensus building at this dangerous time.
I’m no supporter of the Conservative policies seen in the last government but peace in Europe needs people to work together on the many shared values

woodenspoon

Much of which doesn’t need to be done always in person. He likes the jollies and the travel.

Unbelievable! Have you really looked at him of late? He is a tired, exhausted man who is striving to stand up for his country.

Whitewavemark2

Being reported that Macron is joining Starmer in his meeting with Trump.

Europe is beginning to close ranks.

Hooray!

At flipping last.

Being reported that Macron is joining Starmer in his meeting with Trump.

Europe is beginning to close ranks.

Hooray!

Not sure who you were talking to Syracute, me or someone else up thread.

I was saying yes to "could you ask what Farage thinks".
If you read upthread you'll see my POV on Trump is very clear indeed.

Sounds like you believe Trump and his ilks viewpoint . Tragic . Maybe you like that he fancies himself a king .

Yes.

Claremont

What we need to know, now, from Reform.

Who will they be backing? Ukraine and Europe

or Trump and Putin. We all deserve to know.

And while giving their opinion on Trump and his offensive comments regarding Ukraine, could you ask what Farage thinks about the request that Romania cancel the Tate brothers warrants?

What we need to know, now, from Reform.

Who will they be backing? Ukraine and Europe

or Trump and Putin. We all deserve to know.

news.sky.com/story/amp/kemi-badenoch-defends-volodymyr-zelenskyy-after-donald-trump-calls-him-a-dictator-13312728

Hoping the government keep this stance when Trump visits.

Good grief! If this isn't the brown stuff meeting the ventilation I don't know what is.

Good for Pence!

Other references like the Fox one will be dug up for sure - possibly quite an embarrassment as past footage dug up from current Republicans.

Not to mention of course footage from when Trump was impeached for his attempted persuasion of Zelensky 2019 to find an anti Biden story. Including a classic phone call after Trump says all these nice things

do watch this it really really shows Trump for what he is (this was one of the basis of impeachment

:I'd like you to do me a favour tho".....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyWNFvt9Fck

Pence on X "Mr. President, Ukraine did not start this war. Russia launched an unprovoked and brutal invasion that took hundreds of thousands of lives. The road to peace must be built on the truth"

He added an article from Fox news, Trump's favorite TV channel, with the news of February 24, 2022: "Russia invades Ukraine in biggest European attack since world war ii".

x.com/Mike_Pence/status/1892271536394162229

A chat I had with my daughter recently made me chuckle I whatsapped her that there was a child in the Oval office picking his nose, she whatsapped back to ask 'Trump was picking his nose?'
Think it was my daughter who called it right.

Repercussions isn't a word Trump is familiar with, but I think that all the totally absurd and highly damaging decisions he is making right now in haste he will come to regret at leisure.
As will those who voted for him, indeed some are already regretting their decision by all accounts.
This will not end well.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

There’s two sides to this.
And the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. 🤔

Right. So France invades us, and want to own us and rename us France. Germany agrees that they can. Are you fine with that?

Russia invaded a sovereign country. Where are the two sides in that?

FriedGreenTomatoes2

There’s two sides to this.
And the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. 🤔

No. There are not. I truly despair.