Current talk is that the Tories should join with Reform

No FriedGreenTomatoes2, I assume you mean Torfaen, where they have taken a seat on a council in Wales at a by election, not a council. Labour still have a 12 seat majority on the council?

Why would Reform want the One Nation wets? No thanks. This ‘broadchurch’ Tory appeals to neither man nor beast.

Anyway Reform have done so well in Wales taken a Labour council. First time NOT Labour in 107 years apparently!

What is needed is some 'old-school', experienced Tories, with a bit of gravitas and maturity.

Unfortunately, Johnson got rid of some of them, and in so doing, destroyed the Conservative party, basically.

On first appearances, the only way the Conservatives will survive, either as a Government or Opposition, is with a pact with Reform. That will only happen if Farage is top dog.
Meanwhile, watch the results of by-elections. Yesterday's Council one delivered a Labour win but, if you added Conservative votes and Reform votes it was a very slender win. The Tories are haemorrhaging votes to Reform and that presents a dilemma.

RosieandherMaw, your quote reminded me of the 1st Duke of Wellington and his reply to a former mistress blackmailer, 'Publish and be damned."

Too early to tell just what will happen to Reform, no real leader, Farage is only interested in his own personal agenda, they could be a force in the next election or just a damp squib.

Current talk is … is just another form of “They say…”
It reminds me of a well-known quote which was the personal motto of a reclusive millionaire, Edward F. Searles
"They say! What say they? Let them say."

So I’m thinking current talk ?
By whom” To whom? Let them talk!

Who cares? They're both barking up the wrong tree.

I don’t think Reform are interested either.

Hhj

I hope so Whitewavemark. Why on earth she was chosen is, to me, as unfathomable as the choice of Truss.

Mind you her performance is so utterly dismal I guess her days are probably numbered.

Not sure by whom.

Badenoch stated yesterday that she would never get into bed with Farage 🤢🤢🤢