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Niece has just lost her job as a direct result of Musk’s edict.

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Witzend Sun 16-Feb-25 19:53:45

She’s American, a PhD who has been working for years on climate change research. In her current job she still has to complete a year’s probation, hence the sacking, since Musk had ruled that all government probationers will be given the boot.

Luckily her former boss at a university will probably be able to re-employ her, but many thousands will not be so lucky.

MaizieD Mon 17-Feb-25 23:49:25

petra

fancythat

I am so sorry to hear that Witzend. It's a personal disaster, which when multiplied by all the other dismissals, will turn into an economic one for the USA. People on benefit cannot afford to spend, except on essentials. Economic growth will flatline and fall.

Depends if those people get jobs in the Private sector instead, I would say.
Or go into other Public service jobs where they can help say the USA some money.In one way or another.

How does the public sector make money?

The government creates money by spending into the public sector.

Cutting public sector spending won’t ‘save’ money because the money doesn’t exist until it’s spent. It will only create an illusion of ‘saving’ on the assumption that it’s cutting the deficit. But as the ‘deficit’ is portrayed as the difference between spending and tax revenue it won’t reduce by much, if at all, because all those people thrown out of work will be paying no income tax and very little sales taxes because they won’t have much money to spend.

But I expect that the figures will be withheld from the public.

I’m not familiar with US unemployment statistics but it is more than possible that there won’t be enough private sector jobs to absorb the jobless former public sector workers.

Once again, I suspect that employment figures won’t be published now.

Biden’s economic policies had been lowering the rate of unemployment but I think Musk’s reckless actions will send it soaring again. I doubt if Musk or Trump have any idea how a national economy works.

nanna8 Mon 17-Feb-25 23:35:11

It is very hard to get eggs round here because of that flu. The supermarkets haven’t got any. Maybe that is affecting the US too? The price has gone up if you do manage to find any.

MaizieD Mon 17-Feb-25 23:30:15

^ The USA has an outbreak of avian flu as well.^

I thought that was the reason for the egg shortage, The avian flu has killed millions (?) of hens?

Allira Mon 17-Feb-25 23:12:55

Silverbrooks

Is it?

Tesco - 12 large free range eggs £3.15.

Exchange rate $8 is £6.34.

Oops, I was using the Aussie dollars conversion in my head!! Automatic, sorry.

The USA has an outbreak of avian flu as well.

Silverbrooks Mon 17-Feb-25 23:04:39

Is it?

Tesco - 12 large free range eggs £3.15.

Exchange rate $8 is £6.34.

Allira Mon 17-Feb-25 22:58:06

imaround

The average cost of a dozen eggs right now in the US is $8, when you can find them.

That's about the same price as the average here in the UK.

Allira Mon 17-Feb-25 22:56:07

Churchview

In the Bernie Sanders' interview posted on GN yesterday he pointed out that the combined wealth of Musk, Zuckerberg and Bezos is the same as that of the poorest 50% of the population of the USA.

How much richer do these people need to be?
Why do they want to make other people poorer and cause public services to fail in their own country?

That is truly obscene.

And, of course, we have all contributed to that one way or another, or most of us have.

Catching a programme about Bill Gates the other day and he said that his children understand he won't be leaving them vast wealth. Enough, yes, (plenty!) but the rest will go to his Foundation, fighting inequality.

imaround Mon 17-Feb-25 22:48:07

The average cost of a dozen eggs right now in the US is $8, when you can find them.

petra Mon 17-Feb-25 22:32:48

fancythat

^I am so sorry to hear that Witzend. It's a personal disaster, which when multiplied by all the other dismissals, will turn into an economic one for the USA. People on benefit cannot afford to spend, except on essentials. Economic growth will flatline and fall.^

Depends if those people get jobs in the Private sector instead, I would say.
Or go into other Public service jobs where they can help say the USA some money.In one way or another.

How does the public sector make money?

Elegran Mon 17-Feb-25 22:07:28

I think the price equals 48 cents each

Elegran Mon 17-Feb-25 22:06:05

For eggs, that is, not pics.

HousePlantQueen Mon 17-Feb-25 22:04:58

Sorry can't quite understand your post, are you saying that a dozen large white eggs has gone from $5.97 to $49.80?

Elegran Mon 17-Feb-25 22:04:55

Carriage costs could be pretty high across the Atlantic Irish Ocean.

Babs03 Mon 17-Feb-25 22:02:17

eu.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/news/politics/2025/02/17/presidents-day-protests-rally-against-trump-administration-policies/78976704007/

Some pics of protests today.
Thanks to all the good people who took part.
🙏🏾🌺

dotpocka Mon 17-Feb-25 21:52:17

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Elegran Mon 17-Feb-25 21:47:28

I started that one, Maizie

Elegran Mon 17-Feb-25 21:43:55

That was to Churchview
To MaisieD - I reported the vanishing picture-adding to GGNHQ. Reply was "Image posting has been turned off on Gransnet for now. We're sorry for the inconvenience and appreciate it's a pain.
We'll be looking to get back to normal as soon as we can."

I'd heard about the pictures on Mumsnet, but I'd have thought they would have closed down the possibility here on Grannsnet earlier than today. Maybe someone was trying it on again here on the past few days.

MaizieD Mon 17-Feb-25 21:40:28

Just looked on Site Stuff and there's a thread about the withdrawal of the picture posting facility.

Elegran Mon 17-Feb-25 21:38:46

So that they can buy the country cheap in the closing-down sale.

MaizieD Mon 17-Feb-25 21:37:42

Elegran

What has happened to adding a picture to a post?

I am trying to add one, but at the "Add your message here" it doesn't have that facility any more?

There was an outbreak of pornographic pictures being posted on Mumsnet last week (there was a thread somewhere on Gnet about it) I suspect that the facility has been withdrawn to prevent it happening again on Mumsnet or on here.

I had a look earlier but there was nothing about it on 'Site Stuff'. I think the mods should have given us some warning or posted a notice about it.

Churchview Mon 17-Feb-25 20:57:01

In the Bernie Sanders' interview posted on GN yesterday he pointed out that the combined wealth of Musk, Zuckerberg and Bezos is the same as that of the poorest 50% of the population of the USA.

How much richer do these people need to be?
Why do they want to make other people poorer and cause public services to fail in their own country?

Elegran Mon 17-Feb-25 20:27:15

In the U.S. Forest Service approximately 3,400 federal employees have been fired. A cartoon (which I have not been able to post angry ) has been created in response, featuring Smokey Bear in forest ranger uniform and hat. In large letters it says "Only YOU can prevent forest fires." then in smaller letters below is added "Seriously. We've been defunded. It's just you now."

Someone has commented that they are probably going to sell off land, develop, drill etc. Elsewhere someone has commented that maybe they think that changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America will mean that Biden's legislation prohibiting more drilling in the Gulf will no longer have any effect, so they plan to drill there and make even more billions for those on the gravy train.

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 17-Feb-25 19:48:28

I am relieved to hear that your niece may have a job after this, Witzend, but I share your dismay and agree that this is the tip of a very large iceberg. We all know the potential icebergs have to create disaster.

Elegran Mon 17-Feb-25 19:48:14

What has happened to adding a picture to a post?

I am trying to add one, but at the "Add your message here" it doesn't have that facility any more?

HousePlantQueen Mon 17-Feb-25 19:48:06

Babs03

I feel so desperately sorry for every person out of work because of Musk, one of the richest men on earth causing others to lose their income. How many families now worry about paying the bills, the mortgage, medical bills, and saving for a college fund for the kids. Homes everywhere in the US will now be plunged into despair, jobs are not plentiful am sure in smaller towns and cities, houses will be repossessed, cars sold.
And yet Trump put himself up there as the 'everyman' the antiestablishment hero who would make things better for the ordinary American. Yeah. Looks like it is really working. Not.

Yet still people laud Reform in this country, still see the traitorous Farage as a viable candidate for PM despite his appalling record so far as a constituency MP, despite his toadying to Trump, admiration of Musk, despite his acknowledged desire to stop the provision of NHS services free at point of use. I find it hard to articulate my despair at the foolishness of those who will likely suffer the most under an extreme right wing government.