Mike Amesbury, suspended Labour MP

Barleyfields

I do hope so. He’s a thug who has no place in parliament.

I agree, he beat that man on the ground and anyone else would have received a longer sentence.,

I do hope so. He’s a thug who has no place in parliament.

Let’s hope this happens soon, Barleyfields

Thank you Wyllow. The government would want the appeal process completed asap so that the constituents could recall him, in other words get him out of parliament.

Of course, it is. The most important thing is that the people of Runcorn and Helsby have a say in who represents them. That process couldn’t begin until the appeal had been dealt with. I am assuming that the Speaker now has it in hand.

Triple checking it: you are right that its the Crown Court decides appeal dates if the person appeals a magistrates sentence.

I just don't see any party political interest at play here though? Surely its in everyone's interests to get the Recall process underway?

The CPS sometimes decide that a prosecution is not in the public interest. However they would not have been involved in fast tracking this appeal.

I'd describe it as a Public Interest decision. I'm sure there are a small number every year the CPS has to engage with as well as the huge number of other prosecutions/appeals and try to make "best decisions possible".

There was, I am sure, political interference.

It was a very simple appeal (ie on sentence not conviction as he plead guilty).

Dates are decided in negotiation between courts and CPS.

I think fast forwarding was appropriate as the Recall Process (whereby the constancy can remove Amesbury) can take a very long time and the appeal had to be heard before that recall process begins. Meanwhile Amesbury is on full MP pay.

It seems remarkable that his appeal was dealt with so swiftly when others may have to wait a long time.

I’m sorry to say , he’s my MP 😳

Anybody who follows the news ought to be familar with recent recalls and by-elections.

May 2024. Conservative Scott Benton in Blackpool South. He was subject to a recall petition after he was suspended from the Commons for breaching lobbying rules. He resigned four weeks before the petition was due to close.

February 2024. Conservative Peter Bone in Welingborough. He was recalled after bullying and sexually harassing a staff member.

October 2023. SNP Margaret Ferrier in Rutherglen and Hamilton West. She was recalled after being suspended from the House of Commons for 30 days for breaking the Covid lockdown laws.

Institute for Government - By-elections since the 2019 election.

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainer/by-elections-since-2019

Most are triggered by resignations, often for misconduct. Most MPs resign before they are recalled.

For the record, I think Amesbury should resign but he doesn’t have to. Wyllow has explained upthread the time scale of the recall process.

Nobody is awarding plaudits to Amesbury (if that is what you are suggesting in your comment about Trump).

Well Silverbrooks, people are not over familiar with the process of deselecting an MP as not many attack their constituents when they dare disagree with them.
But from what I saw tonight it won't be long before Trump, already a convicted felon, lashes out at some one who dares disagree, and wins loud plaudits for so doing.

Have you not read the explanations on this thread WoodLane? Or even the post immediately above yours?

GrannyGravy13

The suspended Labour MP has been jailed for 10 weeks for punching man in the street.

No doubt he will be out in 4-5 weeks.

Who could have predicted a mere 3 days???? How is he still an MP? he has proved himself unfit for the role

People are posting the most ridiculous comments and clearly haven't bothered read the thread. The law on this is very clear as is the process for recall which can now begin sooner rather than later so that the people can continued to be represented with as short a hiatus as possible.

I think people forget the important work that goes on at constituency level. The longer this dragged on the longer the people would have been without representation.

I think he is a good example of people who have done wrong but would benefit more from a community sentence, I think the plan is to have anger management therapy & do some community work & I've forgotten the rest.

He most certainly needs all the above, but before he is released on to the streets.
He should be forbidden from ever standing for Parliament and any local Council again.

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Casdon

The right outcome for any MP who is found guilty of a crime that warrants a jail sentence.

Except that Labour MPs and cabinet ministers are above the law and parliamentary rules (viz Starmer, Rayner, Reeves and Reynolds to name just a few) so he's already out.

Please provide examples of where cases have gone to court for these people to substantiate your claim orly, otherwise it will be perceived as bitterness because you don’t support them?

Casdon

The right outcome for any MP who is found guilty of a crime that warrants a jail sentence.

Except that Labour MPs and cabinet ministers are above the law and parliamentary rules (viz Starmer, Rayner, Reeves and Reynolds to name just a few) so he's already out.

CLAW .....It now means that the process of Recall (described on page 4) can begin to try and get him sacked in his constituency.
(and an election triggered)

Unless he resigns as an MP, he's currently an Independent of course.

He has appealed his sentence and the appeal has been heard, CLAW.

He is appealing his sentence .He is still getting his £91,000 salary unless he resigns or constituency boot him out.

Etoile2701

His sentence has been suspended!

That’s actually not a bad thing. The sentence is suspended for two years so if he offends during that time he will be back inside. Otherwise he would have been out in 4-5 weeks and only having to keep his nose clean for the rest of the ten weeks.

If it's anything like US it won't make the slightest difference.