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Trump/Zelensky interview in the White House

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Oreo Fri 28-Feb-25 18:20:19

I’m shocked to the core by the absolute rudeness shown to Zelensky by Trump and Vance this afternoon.I’ve never seen anything like it.
However much they disagreed with things Zelensky said it was a terrible thing to see them try and humiliate him on public tv.
How Zelensky kept calm in the face of it I don’t know.
Even for Trump this was a new low. It should have been talks in private.🤬

Wyllow3 Fri 28-Feb-25 21:30:51

Casdon

There’s a European summit in the UK this weekend, which Zelensky is attending. I think a joint statement will go out after that.
www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/28/starmer-to-hold-talks-with-zelenskyy-and-meloni-before-ukraine-defence-summit

Good timing.

"Keir Starmer will hold talks with Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Italy’s Giorgia Meloni in Downing Street on Sunday before a major London defence summit aimed at securing ā€œlasting and enforcedā€ peace in Ukraine.

Fresh from his trip to see Donald Trump in the White House on Thursday, Starmer has headed back to London to host the defence summit, where more than a dozen world leaders will gather to discuss Ukraine.

The prime minister had invited France, Germany, Denmark, Italy and Turkey, as well as Ukraine. After Starmer’s meeting with Trump, the leaders of the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Spain, Finland, Sweden, the Czech Republic and Romania were added to the list of attenders."

Iam64 Fri 28-Feb-25 21:31:20

Trump and Vance reminded me of the coercively controlling, abusive men we were tasked with helping to recognise their behaviour was unacceptable, indeed abusive and needed to change
I’m horrified that anyone could fail to see they were the ones disrespecting the Oval Office

I’m genuinely anxious for our safety. I’m also switching off to read my murder mystery. At least there I can be confident good will triumph in the end

Churchview Fri 28-Feb-25 21:32:15

Vance looked a fool when he was forced to admit that all he knew about Ukraine he'd learned from watching it on the telly.

ViceVersa Fri 28-Feb-25 21:33:26

Iam64

Trump and Vance reminded me of the coercively controlling, abusive men we were tasked with helping to recognise their behaviour was unacceptable, indeed abusive and needed to change
I’m horrified that anyone could fail to see they were the ones disrespecting the Oval Office

I’m genuinely anxious for our safety. I’m also switching off to read my murder mystery. At least there I can be confident good will triumph in the end

I couldn't agree more.

Babs03 Fri 28-Feb-25 21:38:54

All my grown family and friends have been messaging me saying how sickened they were by the press conference with Trump and Zelensky. I imagine this response is repeated many times over in this country and indeed around the world.
The majority will feel shocked and sickened.
I just despair.
😣

Babs03 Fri 28-Feb-25 21:40:11

Coup

Babs03 Fri 28-Feb-25 21:40:57

Sorry meant to post
Coup d’etat????

Delila Fri 28-Feb-25 21:41:22

It will be good to see Zelensky among friends at the defence summit. I wonder if he’ll leave for Europe tonight?

Trump and Vance have embarrassed their country today.

Churchview Fri 28-Feb-25 21:45:27

"a showdown between a thuggish Mafia boss and his fawning henchman and a recalcitrant shopkeeper who wasn't coming up with the protection money."

This is exactly it isn't it? Patrick Bishop sums it up. Daily Mail.

LovesBach Fri 28-Feb-25 21:47:01

I had to turn it off - unbearable to see a disgusting performance of attempted bullying. Zelensky stood his ground - he is a hero.

Claremont Fri 28-Feb-25 21:48:31

So very very glad that I'm a European.

Yes, more than ever. Trump's behaviour will help Europe come together and stronger. The ony good thing about him.

SueDonim Fri 28-Feb-25 21:49:56

mum2three

I thoroughly enjoyed the scene. Trump speaks his mind...no pussyfooting about with this man. How refreshing after Biden and Obama....sucking up and appeasing.

You enjoy watching bullies at work? You’re right about sucking up, though. Trump is sucking up to Putin. angry

Barleyfields Fri 28-Feb-25 21:53:54

mum2three

I thoroughly enjoyed the scene. Trump speaks his mind...no pussyfooting about with this man. How refreshing after Biden and Obama....sucking up and appeasing.

I suspect many of us won’t forget this shocking post. I hope that if you read what everyone else has to say you are truly ashamed mum2three.

Allira Fri 28-Feb-25 22:03:17

Doodledog

It was horrible to watch.

I've only just seen it.

I could have wept, it was dreadful. Just bullying, horrible to watch.

PoliticsNerd Fri 28-Feb-25 22:09:11

The horror that is the US continues to get worse.

Along with others my tears fell.

Zelensky mustn't give the minerals deal.

There's an emergency episode of TRIP www.youtube.com/watch?v=P07-8ZLiChI it can't wave a magic wand but these guys no so much more than we do so it is calming.

Allira Fri 28-Feb-25 22:14:08

Iam64

Trump and Vance reminded me of the coercively controlling, abusive men we were tasked with helping to recognise their behaviour was unacceptable, indeed abusive and needed to change
I’m horrified that anyone could fail to see they were the ones disrespecting the Oval Office

I’m genuinely anxious for our safety. I’m also switching off to read my murder mystery. At least there I can be confident good will triumph in the end

Trump, Vance, Putin, the Tate brothers and their ilk?

What on earth has happened to this world?

escaped Fri 28-Feb-25 22:14:49

Iam64

I’m still feeling shocked by the bullying, disrespectful, aggressive behaviour shown by Trump and Vance towards Zelensky. They had clearly rehearsed and planned their assault on Zelensky. It was a dreadful thing to watch this decent President treated with such disrespect and disdain.

I agree. These things don't just happen by accident. I think they had it planned.

LaCrepescule Fri 28-Feb-25 22:19:20

I’m sickened to the core. Narcissistic, evil, ignorant men in charge of one of the most powerful countries in the world.
I think it’s time to be scared, they are unhinged and dangerous.
Zelensky showed dignity and courage in the face of this disgraceful and patronising attack.
I wonder what the American people will make of this? Will any of Trump’s supporters begin to see him for what he truly is? He’s only just got back into power and managed to throw the world into chaos. A new world disorder and God help us all.
Perhaps Charles will disinvite him now? Pretty disgusted he asked Trump over in the first place, I used to think he had integrity…

Wyllow3 Fri 28-Feb-25 22:19:48

That makes sense. Waiting for it to com onto TV.

and hoping that Zelensky would really lose it in front of the world

and he didnt.

The way they were leaning in at him and pointing and shouting.

OH, and they crucified him on the way in for not wearing a suit. Zelensky said he would dress like that when he wasn't at war. that annoyed Trump.

Wyllow3 Fri 28-Feb-25 22:20:09

I meant to write criticised!......

Casdon Fri 28-Feb-25 22:20:40

I don’t think it was planned to turn out how it did, I think they thought Zelensky would capitulate. Knowingly exposing themselves to the world as bullies surely wasn’t part of their game plan. Appearing tough yes, but bullies, no, because it exposes them. Trump undoubtedly lost his cool.

Allira Fri 28-Feb-25 22:21:51

Perhaps Charles will disinvite him now? Pretty disgusted he asked Trump over in the first place, I used to think he had integrity …

I think it's a trump card.

Charles and Starmer know what they're doing but dealing with someone who is so unpredictable as Trump? šŸ¤”

Allira Fri 28-Feb-25 22:24:35

I hope Zelensky knows what the majority of decent people think of this display of bullying.

PoliticsNerd Fri 28-Feb-25 22:26:59

Friedrich Merz
@_FriedrichMerz

Dear Volodymyr @zelenskyyua, we stand with #Ukraine in good and in testing times. We must never confuse aggressor and victim in this terrible war. (FM)

8:06 pm Ā· 28 Feb 2025
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(FM means Friedrich Merz wrote this himself rather than it being sent from his office)

gransruleok Fri 28-Feb-25 22:30:13

Come into my parlour said the spider to the fly….