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Trump/Zelensky interview in the White House

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Oreo Fri 28-Feb-25 18:20:19

I’m shocked to the core by the absolute rudeness shown to Zelensky by Trump and Vance this afternoon.I’ve never seen anything like it.
However much they disagreed with things Zelensky said it was a terrible thing to see them try and humiliate him on public tv.
How Zelensky kept calm in the face of it I don’t know.
Even for Trump this was a new low. It should have been talks in private.🤬

imaround Fri 28-Feb-25 23:38:09

You are correct Maizie. He has never worn a suit to a meeting since Russia invaded him.

Nanicky Fri 28-Feb-25 23:38:38

"Clothes don't maketh the man"
And he's more of a man than either Trump or Valance.

Dickens Fri 28-Feb-25 23:39:15

JenniferEccles

It was certainly a horrible spectacle to watch but I can’t help wondering if something happened or was said before the cameras started rolling which precipitated the angry exchanges with none of the three allowing any of the others to speak uninterrupted.

Sarah Smith, the BBC correspondent in Washington made the comment that Zelensky didn’t know how to deal with Trump which made me wonder if the press had heard something of a possible conversation before the meeting.

There were a lot of accusations that Zelensky had been disrespectful.
Much as I felt so sorry for him I will say one thing- he should most definitely have worn a suit.

Much as I felt so sorry for him I will say one thing- he should most definitely have worn a suit.

If Musk can hold forth in the Oval Office wearing baseball cap, t-shirt and pea-coat, I'm sure Zelensky can wear the outfit of war.

Nanicky Fri 28-Feb-25 23:40:42

Here, here, Dickens, spot on.

Nanicky Fri 28-Feb-25 23:41:47

Vance😂

Sasta Fri 28-Feb-25 23:53:32

mum2three

I thoroughly enjoyed the scene. Trump speaks his mind...no pussyfooting about with this man. How refreshing after Biden and Obama....sucking up and appeasing.

So you applaud bullying? Shame on you.

NotSpaghetti Sat 01-Mar-25 00:14:52

Lindsey Graham would say that wouldn't he!
🙄

nanna8 Sat 01-Mar-25 00:16:17

Why on earth was this made public? Fight all you want privately but to have everyone watching like that was just sheer bullying. I have never in my life seen politicians behave publicly in such a rude and forthright manner towards a person from another country. Even towards people they detest who have attacked them on their own soil. Even during wartime negotiations.Truly Vomit worthy.

Sasta Sat 01-Mar-25 00:17:35

Listen this and see if you still feel the same mum2three.

notesfrompoland.com/2025/02/25/polish-foreign-minister-calls-for-peace-through-strength-in-ukraine-in-un-speech/

Oldbat1 Sat 01-Mar-25 00:19:50

What a disgrace Trump and Vance are. Their attitude is unbelievable. Shocked.

Dogwalkingnana Sat 01-Mar-25 00:37:08

I'm American. Many of us suspect Trump has syphillis.

MayBee70 Sat 01-Mar-25 00:43:59

How can they mock the way that Zelensky dresses when Trump spends most of his life wearing red baseball caps with logos on? I mean. At his age.

Lesley60 Sat 01-Mar-25 00:58:24

It was disgusting a pair of bullies doing everything they could to humiliate Zelensky, but to me the only person they humiliated was themselves, I hope the American people that voted for him are proud to see the disgusting leaders they have got, it shows the world how awful the government of America are, so pleased I’m British

Sasta Sat 01-Mar-25 01:03:23

Not only was Zelensky bullied by that ambush, he was also discriminated against when questioned about his attire - the man is at war! Would they treat other heads of state the same way if they wore traditional garb instead of a suit? I think not. Pure ignorance.

PoliticsNerd Sat 01-Mar-25 01:06:19

Aparently Zelenski was virtually thrown out of tye Whitehouse and talks are off.

I rather think that was the intention.

Wyllow3 Sat 01-Mar-25 01:14:30

The bit where Vance had to admit he had never actually visited Ukraine....."but I've read about it".

glammagran Sat 01-Mar-25 01:28:41

If Modi of India had turned up in his usual attire, would that have been deemed inappropriate?

Dogwalkingnana Sat 01-Mar-25 01:53:46

More than half of us in the United States despise Trump and scummy Vance.

Dogwalkingnana Sat 01-Mar-25 01:56:28

Vance looks like he never bathes.

imaround Sat 01-Mar-25 02:05:21

Dogwalkingnana

I'm American. Many of us suspect Trump has syphillis.

I haven't heard this theory yet, but I could see it!

imaround Sat 01-Mar-25 02:07:02

I posted on the other thread, but there was "accidentally" a Russian State media reporter at the meeting.

The White House hand picked the journalists, but aren't real sure how he got through. hmm

mae13 Sat 01-Mar-25 02:55:38

mum2three

I thoroughly enjoyed the scene. Trump speaks his mind...no pussyfooting about with this man. How refreshing after Biden and Obama....sucking up and appeasing.

Trump could speak his mind.......if he knew just what it is.
But he zig-zags, changing opinions by the minute, a bankrupt and convicted felon who readily accuses others of lying whilst doing exactly the same himself.

And this is a man who once famously told someone that the way to treat women was "to grab them by the pussy." And he got to be President of the USA?

ronib Sat 01-Mar-25 03:04:21

Trump did make one point in that Ukraine was expecting him to fund the war for the next ten years and Trump won’t do that. Trump is someone who is a complete enigma because from one point of view, he’s completely right. The killing has to stop and Ukraine was showing a desire to extend the fight using American money. This would seem to be undeniable. The choice is to extend the conflict whilst America drops out.
Interesting.
Also Trump seems to have an impeccable sense of timing- he hosted Starmer on Thursday and Zelensky on Friday. So we had Starmer’s simpering and almost vassal like visit in full public view followed by Zelensky’s public humiliation the next day. I doubt that Putin will be dropping by the White House anytime soon.

Ladyleftfieldlover Sat 01-Mar-25 04:53:10

Talking about suits - Churchill didn’t wear a suit to the White House, he wore a sort of boiler suit. trump is an idiot. Who is he to talk anyway? He wears the wrong shade of makeup, an ill fitting suit, his tie is too long and those baseball caps. Well. I too couldn’t believe what I read this morning.

ronib Sat 01-Mar-25 05:09:20

Who is Trump to talk? Didn’t he point out that America isn’t going to continue Biden’s policy of paying for the war? That Trump wanted to hear how Zelensky was going to find a peace settlement and that too many people have died. Trump doesn’t like killing. That’s who Trump is. Where is peace?