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Ships collide in North Sea.

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MayBee70 Mon 10-Mar-25 18:12:53

Containing aviation fuel and sodium cyanide. I really hope that this can be contained in some way. If not I dread to think of what effect it will have on the environment and wildlife ( birds are only now recovering from the bird flu outbreak).

Allira Wed 12-Mar-25 14:16:15

Wyllow3

M0nica

No. If the event was deliberate the ship would have done it in a way that meant the captain did not get arrested.This kind of event is close to a daily event in the Channel and North Sea. Most are near misses.

I agree. I suspect poor if not failing systems, grossly understaffed, inadequate care and failures to monitor both equipment and simple visual alertness. Container ships are notorious for this.

I thought it was reported that the ship was on auto-pilot at the time? Even so, one would think that someone would be on the bridge.

MayBee70 Wed 12-Mar-25 14:13:17

I seem to remember a lot of controversy about ‘floating rust buckets’ a few years back. I would have hoped that regulations had been tightened up since then.

nanna8 Wed 12-Mar-25 12:08:16

Too much vodka I reckon. Hope he never gets to be in charge of a ship again.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 12-Mar-25 11:15:54

Russian Captain, ship with multiple ‘fails’ including steering gear, on recent inspections USA military supplies ship at anchor off British Coast just in the midst of the current geopolitical situation since Trump. One man dead which escalates from an insurance legal issue to manslaughter.

Wyllow3 Wed 12-Mar-25 11:05:20

It also depends which company owns the ship - it was flying under a Portuguese flag, but companies are often multinationals and crews international.

Wyllow3 Wed 12-Mar-25 10:55:52

M0nica

No. If the event was deliberate the ship would have done it in a way that meant the captain did not get arrested.This kind of event is close to a daily event in the Channel and North Sea. Most are near misses.

I agree. I suspect poor if not failing systems, grossly understaffed, inadequate care and failures to monitor both equipment and simple visual alertness. Container ships are notorious for this.

Allira Wed 12-Mar-25 10:23:21

M0nica

No. If the event was deliberate the ship would have done it in a way that meant the captain did not get arrested.This kind of event is close to a daily event in the Channel and North Sea. Most are near misses.

The Soviets were notorious for behaving provocatively towards British warships; there were many near misses and I do remember one collision where the Soviet warship cut across in front of the bigger British ship. The swift actions of the British captain and crew avoided immense damage and possible further loss of life.

Of course, the Cold War is over now.
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M0nica Wed 12-Mar-25 09:48:36

No. If the event was deliberate the ship would have done it in a way that meant the captain did not get arrested.This kind of event is close to a daily event in the Channel and North Sea. Most are near misses.

karmalady Wed 12-Mar-25 09:17:11

potentially an act of war against US and UK

Smileless2012 Wed 12-Mar-25 09:07:46

The arrested captain is a Russian national as are other crew members.

M0nica Tue 11-Mar-25 18:16:50

Smileless2012

A man has been arrested on suspicion of gross negligence and manslaughter and remains in custody.

Given what has already been reported, probably the captain and there was indeed no one on the bridge.

This is frighteningly frequent cause of this type of accident as DH knows onlytoo well.

As for it being deliberate, no one with any knowledge of the shipping industry would think that.

MaizieD Tue 11-Mar-25 16:05:09

I've just heard on Global News that the container ship wasn't carrying any sodium cyanide, according to its owners . Which, if true, is one relief..

Smileless2012 Tue 11-Mar-25 15:47:07

A man has been arrested on suspicion of gross negligence and manslaughter and remains in custody.

Claremont Tue 11-Mar-25 12:39:19

that coast is full of seals, just being born or about to.

MayBee70 Tue 11-Mar-25 12:22:14

The poor birds are only just recovering from the bird flu of a couple of years ago. I just saw on Sky News that there was no sodium cyanide so that’s a relief. I’m thinking of our local dolphin pod that cover a huge area of the North Sea. When I used to live in Cornwall there was still oil on the beach at Crackington Haven years after that huge oil spill. Isn’t it in the area where lots of dead marine life were washed up on the shore the other year, too?

Claremont Tue 11-Mar-25 11:49:08

But that is why they all have radar and personel on stand by constantly!

I feel sick about all the wild life and pollution, so tragically sad.

Sago Tue 11-Mar-25 11:36:21

We could hear the fog horns early in the morning, it was thick fog.

nanna8 Tue 11-Mar-25 11:20:28

Russia? Could be anyone but more likely an accident caused by negligence.

karmalady Tue 11-Mar-25 11:00:10

It is very soluble in water and will inevitably also be airbourne in water vapour coming off the sea

karmalady Tue 11-Mar-25 10:56:47

It is reported to actually be sodium cyanide not potassium cyanide

karmalady Tue 11-Mar-25 10:53:20

If the potassium cyanide in 3 large containers on the cargo ship has been released then there will be a terrible on-going natural disaster in the sea, the air and especially in the humber estuary only 10 miles away. It is soluble so cannot be contained with any floating device, as used for oil spillages.

I think digital interference/hacking by russia

Smileless2012 Tue 11-Mar-25 10:52:30

I share your fear Babs. Bempton cliffs are a very important RSPB site and at this time of the year birds will be gathering there to breed. Spurn Point is another significant area for wildlife but there are suggestions that due to yesterday's wind direction, this may well have been spared.

Gingster Tue 11-Mar-25 10:48:47

Sodium Cyanide!!!!!!!

Wyllow3 Tue 11-Mar-25 10:43:13

Who shells out for the clean up?

Babs03 Tue 11-Mar-25 10:36:54

I fear that much marine life will be wiped out and the sea will be washing up poisoned sea creatures on North Eastern coastlines for some time.