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His Majesty Donald Trump?

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mae13 Mon 17-Mar-25 19:09:41

I thought the War of Independence was to break free of a Parliament far away and, more importantly, to get away from Monarchy.
Now the US is in the tyrannical grip of HRH King Donald.
How did that happen?

Wyllow3 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:55:29

🙂 The many pictures in the article showing similar styles amongst the worst dictators in Europe are very telling!

Frugola Tue 18-Mar-25 10:51:28

Wyllow3 that was sincere not sarcastic!

Frugola Tue 18-Mar-25 10:50:17

Wyllow3

Thank you for this interesting information.

Wyllow3 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:45:52

"This, of course, is a startlingly un-American idea. The Trump look is miles from the architectural tradition of Washington, D.C., a city kept deliberately low-rise in its center, and whose neoclassical public buildings evoke stability and trustworthiness through their restraint.

From the White House to the monuments, the American capital was designed to avoid Europe’s autocratic excesses, projecting a message of simplicity, democracy and egalitarianism—precisely the opposite of the new brand in town."

Wyllow3 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:43:36

I noticed the chairs -very King Louis style. But Mar-o Lago looks like that too. I associate it with an over ostentatious display of wealth.

Politico calls it "Trumps dictator Chic"

www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/trump-style-dictator-autocrats-design-214877/

Babs03 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:22:00

Frugola

Has nobody noticed how he has now decorated the famous Oval Office fireplace with twirly gold decorations? They weren't there during Zelensky's visit. They have appeared since. Very ROYAL-LOOKING!

Just wait until he gets a gold horse drawn carriage to get around in. Might sound ‘out there’ but compared to some things Trump has done recently I think that might be the least ridiculous.

LovesBach Tue 18-Mar-25 10:21:32

What a refreshing difference to hear Mark Carney yesterday; an educated, intelligent, calm and patriotic politician. Listening to his reasonable and reasoned responses to the press, I reflected that Canada has made a wise choice.

nanna8 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:20:48

I suppose his son will be his successor then. Wouldn’t surprise me .

AGAA4 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:06:20

I think Trump has always been envious of royalty and to be King of America would be his ideal.
(King) Trump already believes that he doesn't have to answer to anyone for his actions.

Wyllow3 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:00:15

I think Imarounds post above which describes the psychology of groups who have become enraptured by a "strong man who will save us" cult is enlightening.

People aren't stupid, or nazis, but the desire to want "Saving" over rides fact checks and inconvenient information against that prevailing ideology. Misinformation is rife, but a lot of people aren't that politically interested to check it out.

I don't call voters stupid or fascist but feel its OK to use fascist to describe the words/policies/actions of leaders - with explanations

Frugola Tue 18-Mar-25 09:59:19

Has nobody noticed how he has now decorated the famous Oval Office fireplace with twirly gold decorations? They weren't there during Zelensky's visit. They have appeared since. Very ROYAL-LOOKING!

AGAA4 Tue 18-Mar-25 09:47:03

Trump may be cutting the funding to Voice of America which speaks against despots and authoritarian
rule. China of course are delighted.

When freedom of speech is curtailed in this way the only voices we hear are those of Trump, Putin and other despots.

J52 Tue 18-Mar-25 09:38:16

Cossy

Churchview

"It is estimated that during his 36 years of rule over England he executed up to 57,000 people, many of whom were either members of the clergy or ordinary citizens and nobles who had taken part in uprisings and protests up and down the country."

No, not entirely popular.

😂😂😂😂

Just shows how little in depth knowledge is known about English History. 😂 In my opinion.

Babs03 Tue 18-Mar-25 09:36:12

The word nazi may be used by some in order to reinforce the dangers we face when a leader like Trump comes to power. Tbh I prefer to use the term alt right which describes the ideology of Trump and most of his supporters. Fascist is also pretty good, but both alt right and fascist also describe nazism. So whilst some think it is unhelpful to use the word nazi I think that if it walks like a duck….

Claremont Tue 18-Mar-25 09:30:26

Watched a fascinating documentary on France 5 2 nights ago- about the very close links with Russia and Putin since 1987. They spotted him early for his narcissim and his need to be flattered and made to feel important. They knew that for to work, they had to work on him slowly, get plenty of evidence in so so many ways to have massive power on him, In those early days, when he was working hand in hand with the Russian Mafia, they provided him with lots of bunga bunga parties with lots of cameras around- time and time again. Then when his empire fell apart and he found himself in debts so high even he could get out, they provided the money, tons of money, and piled on more evidence. They have so so much on him that if Putin says 'jump' the only repla he can give is 'how high'.

Cossy Tue 18-Mar-25 09:30:05

Churchview

"It is estimated that during his 36 years of rule over England he executed up to 57,000 people, many of whom were either members of the clergy or ordinary citizens and nobles who had taken part in uprisings and protests up and down the country."

No, not entirely popular.

😂😂😂😂

Galaxy Tue 18-Mar-25 09:22:43

I am sure they will be grateful for my political advice grin

Galaxy Tue 18-Mar-25 09:22:02

I said that to the Democrats and those who were surprised at Brexit, chocolatelovinggran. If the reaction continues as it is I imagine I will be saying it the Democrats at the next presidential election.

nanna8 Tue 18-Mar-25 09:03:47

How is Trump’s support going ? Are they all still rusted on or has he lost people along the way? How very different things are in the USA. Trump would never be elected here or the UK I am certain. Probably not in Western Europe,either. Not sure about the East.

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 18-Mar-25 08:52:12

Well * Galaxy * , I do not call anyone "stupid" or " nazi". I do, however, reserve the right to say to say to people " this outcome may have been foreseen" ( aka " I told you so")

Lovetopaint037 Tue 18-Mar-25 08:25:35

Poor America. Who will trust that great country again or at least a Republican Party? Trust and respect must never be underestimated. It is what relationships are built on and it is what America has largely enjoyed with the West. Canada is now scooping up all that is lost by America.

Galaxy Tue 18-Mar-25 07:59:30

A good example of the backfire effect is those who continue to call people stupid, and nazis, on and on, despite it being the most ineffective political strategy I have ever see.

Babs03 Tue 18-Mar-25 07:55:20

Thanks imaround, an enlightening link.
To suppose all those who voted for and support Trump are merely stupid rednecks is equally unintelligent. Some might be, but not all, the fact is as pointed out in the piece, there are those who prefer an authoritarian ‘strongman’ who will fight against liberal values and even democratic values, happy to see the establishment dismantled and elites rattled, even if this means getting rid of a free press, a fair judiciary and human rights.
It has happened before, as pointed out, in 1930s Germany and Italy. And when the strongmen were finally ripped from their pedestals the people tried to paint themselves as victims, but not all were, very many voted for and fully supported the likes of Hitler and Mussolini, they were not all stupid either, they knew what they were doing, indeed these strongmen gave vent to many of their most base desires and prejudices.
Dark days.

imaround Mon 17-Mar-25 22:53:19

"One of the most striking findings in political psychology is the "backfire effect." Studies have demonstrated that when individuals with strong ideological commitments are confronted with evidence contradicting their beliefs, they often become even more entrenched (Nyhan & Reifler, 2010). Trump’s base is a textbook case. No amount of factual correction, no number of investigative reports, and no exposés of his corruption could shake their devotion.

This is not mere ignorance. Trump supporters are not simply uninformed; they are misinformed, and their worldview is designed to protect itself against inconvenient truths. This is why fact-checking Trump’s lies has had little effect. The perception of Trump as a victim of media bias and political persecution feeds into the authoritarian need for a strongman who stands against the corrupt elite (Kelly, 2020)."

imaround Mon 17-Mar-25 22:27:43

This is an interesting theory of how this happened.

open.substack.com/pub/therationalleague/p/inside-the-maga-mind?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web