Small boat migrants to the UK are 36% UP on this time last year.

We have weekenders in Devon and Cornwall. They come on a Friday and go home on Sunday evening, (mainly to their 2nd homes). (Andrew Marr, Gordon Ramsay etc. We call them "weekenders", as well as "grockles".).

Personally I have never come across " Weekender"

Clothing firm selling casual clothes designed for Weekenders ie those going away for weekends.

Primrose53

Visitors are so called because they are visiting. Holidaymakers are so called because they are coming on holiday. Weekenders are people coming just for a weekend.

Illegals are people coming here illegally. Doesn’t matter what nomenclature you use, that’s what they are.

Personally I have never come across " Weekender"

Illegal is vile and dehumanising. But then again some people don't regard others as human. Dangerous times.

Parsley3

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj4nrdnp018o

Here is a link to the Kristi Noam visit. Is this how we want to treat people?

Quote from this article

"An appeals court in Washington DC upheld a decision by a lower court to put a temporary injunction on the deportation of Venezuelan immigrants under the 1798 act, which allows for the expulsion of foreign citizens with little due process.

The use of the act has drawn an outcry from immigration lawyers and activists who argue that some men accused of being gang members have been sent to El Salvador and locked up in the mega-prison on the basis of little evidence, including simply having tattoos.

Human rights groups have warned that the jail, in which inmates are held in windowless cells and sleep on bare metal bunks, is a "concrete and steel pit".

The White House continues to insist that all those they rounded up are dangerous gang members and were carefully vetted.

Thats for criminals, Shinamae

"The Salvadorean leader confirmed that he had "offered the United States of America the opportunity to outsource part of its prison system".
He clarified that El Salvador would be "willing to take in only convicted criminals" and that his government would do so "in exchange for a fee".

It also includes some US citizens/criminals.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg4jx8xyjgo

People who enter this country have the right to claim Asylum before further measures.

No way the US way

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj4nrdnp018o

Here is a link to the Kristi Noam visit. Is this how we want to treat people?

Visitors are so called because they are visiting. Holidaymakers are so called because they are coming on holiday. Weekenders are people coming just for a weekend.

Illegals are people coming here illegally. Doesn’t matter what nomenclature you use, that’s what they are.

JenniferEccles

I’ve just been reading on the BBC news about how Donald Trump deals with illegal arrivals.
His Homeland Security Secretary, Kristi Noem recently visited a prison in El Salvador which has agreed to take the US illegals.
I can’t honestly think of a more effective deterrent than the set up there.
Keir Starmer take note.

She then warned anyone thinking of entering the US illegally that they could end up there , describing it as one of the tools in their box.

El Salvador prisons are an absolute nightmare, if that doesn’t deter them nothing will…

I don’t call them ‘illegals’.
I think ‘irregular migrants’ best describes those who pay people smugglers don’t you?

Please contact call people "illegals"

I’ve just been reading on the BBC news about how Donald Trump deals with illegal arrivals.
His Homeland Security Secretary, Kristi Noem recently visited a prison in El Salvador which has agreed to take the US illegals.
I can’t honestly think of a more effective deterrent than the set up there.
Keir Starmer take note.

She then warned anyone thinking of entering the US illegally that they could end up there , describing it as one of the tools in their box.

Not all immigrants glasshalfempty just the ones who arrive on rubber dinghies via the Channel, who pay people smugglers. They arrive with next to nothing knowing the nice kind UK taxpayers will fund all their needs.

Even France despairs - their politicians say we are too gene.
That’s the pull factor.

I think asylum seekers in France received around 7 euros a day. They get more if accommodation isn't provided.
My French friend apparently got very cross at the doctor's recently, because she has to pay at the "caisse" after her consultation whereas an asylum seeker had to just sign the exemption form - and that was after his getting seen by just turning up as well with no appointment.

Skydancer

Our generation has known a way of life that will never be the same going forward. So many different cultures are here now vying for jobs and housing. So many different languages and beliefs are changing British life as we have known it. There is no going back. Whether that is a bad thing or something to be celebrated depends on your point of view.

SkyDancer
I’m afraid there’s no stopping the change in cultures mixing.
This will come about through global warming.
The tropics are in a precarious position as 40% of the world’s population live there.
Obviously this won’t happen in our time or our children’s. But it will happen.

www.canterbury.ac.nz/news-and-events/news/climate-explained--will-the-tropics-eventually-become-uninhabita#:~:text=In%20summary%2C%20while%20absolute%20temperatures,life%20challenging%2C%20but%20not%20impossible.

It's fun really isn't slagging off all immigrants, calling them names , assuming they are all cheeky buggars, that all lawyers are woke, suggesting they be shoved back.

Saves the bother of any critical thinking or empathy.

Casdon

fancythat

Casdon

Yes, Kandinsky, it will happen. A pound to a penny that is part of the future plans to control entry to the UK.

So why has it not happened already?
It has been 6 years so far?

New government, new approach. I don’t think it will happen immediately, but it is inevitable, and will be accompanied by faster processing, and deportation for those who are not eligible.

I am fed up waiting for sometime never.

silverlining48

FGT Most stay in France and other European countries . It’s a tiny proportion who risk their lives in tiny overfilled boats to come here.
The pull factors are probably

family or friends are here
The language as many already speak English and staying elsewhere means learning yet another new language
The feeling that British are decent people
Possibly because we don’t have ID cards as most other European countries do, it might be easier to get a job,

How about cash?

Though I dont know what they receive in other countries.
I will look it up later.

When we refuse asylum and try to deport that’s the cue for the lawyers, rubbing their hands with glee because they take on these vexatious claims - funded by us AGAIN via Legal Aid! It’s a right old merry go round isn’t t it? Laughable if it wasn’t t so dispiriting.

I neither agree or disagree with immigration in general
However we do not have the infrastructure in place to manage with such a rapidly increased and increasing numbers of people.
The Acute Hospital Trusts swamped by nos. Longer waiting lists.
Local Councils spend on Education, Housing, Social Services etc historically under pressure leading in cases to bankruptcy due to additional population pressures.
Courts, Policing services and prisons under pressure to cope.
I understand GPs are paid per capita so increased payment. > population appears to result in long GP/ Primary Care/ Dentist appointments or no NHS dentists appointments available
Greece and Italy in particular have been inundated.
Our voluntary RNLI boats face danger. RN Border Forces pulled away from other essential duties. Topical as alleged foreign ships and navy trawling the Uk coast causing mayhem.
It seems a no brainer the UK no longer, not past present govt. gov’ts are unable to live in this situation.
Therefore the population as this is a democratic country are in the best position to change the immigration crisis.
Stop the sniping. This site will be ruined. Democracy! Or play nicely children.

Our generation has known a way of life that will never be the same going forward. So many different cultures are here now vying for jobs and housing. So many different languages and beliefs are changing British life as we have known it. There is no going back. Whether that is a bad thing or something to be celebrated depends on your point of view.

It is true that countries like France do take thousands of migrants.
The number wanting to come to the UK may appear huge because they are more visible - all converging on the coast around Calais.

However, I have heard that France isn't beyond telling migrants that life will be much easier for them in the UK in terms of a more generous welfare system, housing, more jobs, and more tolerance. So of course they are prepared to risk it.

Primrose53

silverlining48

FGT Most stay in France and other European countries . It’s a tiny proportion who risk their lives in tiny overfilled boats to come here.
The pull factors are probably

family or friends are here
The language as many already speak English and staying elsewhere means learning yet another new language
The feeling that British are decent people
Possibly because we don’t have ID cards as most other European countries do, it might be easier to get a job,

31,000 since Labour got in, 🤣🤣

And your point is, Primrose53? There were 45,755 people in 2022. Please, just check out the figures from previous years before posting. We aren’t going to know if the numbers since July are significantly different to previous years and if so, why until after July 2025.

31,000 isn’t huge compared to most other countries. Numbers already been quoted up thread, numerous times.

silverlining48

FGT Most stay in France and other European countries . It’s a tiny proportion who risk their lives in tiny overfilled boats to come here.
The pull factors are probably

family or friends are here
The language as many already speak English and staying elsewhere means learning yet another new language
The feeling that British are decent people
Possibly because we don’t have ID cards as most other European countries do, it might be easier to get a job,

31,000 since Labour got in, 🤣🤣

FGT Most stay in France and other European countries . It’s a tiny proportion who risk their lives in tiny overfilled boats to come here.
The pull factors are probably

family or friends are here
The language as many already speak English and staying elsewhere means learning yet another new language
The feeling that British are decent people
Possibly because we don’t have ID cards as most other European countries do, it might be easier to get a job,