Small boat migrants to the UK are 36% UP on this time last year.

The U.K. gives shelter to 1% of the total of refugees in the world.

There is no such thing as an "illegal" or "bogus" person seeking asylum. Under international law, anyone has the right to apply for asylum in any country that has signed the 1951 Convention and to remain there until the authorities have assessed their claim.
It is recognised in the 1951 Convention that people fleeing persecution may have to use irregular means in order to escape and claim asylum in another country – there is no legal way to travel to the UK for the specific purpose of seeking asylum.

Come on, we all know asylum seekers // economic migrants all go on to be brain surgeons.
They’d never cheat or lie.
Absolute angels all of them.

Claiming to be an asylum seeker isn’t illegal but a great deal of those doing so are manipulating the system and lying.Those are economic migrants.

Yep. Agree.

Or their jobs, or a relative's job is invested in the situation.

Kandinsky

People on this thread who don’t seem to have any problem whatsoever with asylum seekers - are you happy for the situation to continue?
Do you have any concerns at all?

I don’t think they have, unless it affects them and the area they live in.They don’t see problems so think problems don’t exist.

That is what I thought.

I have been googling things since my post, and it all seems to point towards illegality.

Whitewavemark2

fancythat

^ but once here and asylum is sought, they are legal.

I wouldnt mind clearing that up actually.
At which precise moment do they become legal?

Asylum seekers are never illegal. That is what people fail to understand.

I know it seems to be fashionable these days to ignore the law, but we do thankfully have a PM that respects the law.

Under section 40 of the Nationality and Borders Act 2022 (NABA), it is difficult for a person to arrive in the UK without a visa.

Because there is no such thing as an ‘asylum visa’, this law applies to almost all asylum seekers entering the UK. From 28 July 2022 onwards, anybody who enters the UK (without a visa) and claims asylum will be going against this law. This offence carries a maximum sentence of 4 years (5 years for people who re-enter the UK in breach of a deportation order).

However, it is important to remember that it would not be practical for the government to prosecute (this means to bring criminal proceedings against) everybody who enters the UK without a visa, because this would put a lot of pressure on the courts and prison systems.

righttoremain.org.uk/toolkit/enter-uk-asylum/#illegal

And Nano14 at least hints at it.
Which is why I asked the question for further clarification.

Whitewavemark2

fancythat

^ but once here and asylum is sought, they are legal.

I wouldnt mind clearing that up actually.
At which precise moment do they become legal?

Asylum seekers are never illegal. That is what people fail to understand.

I know it seems to be fashionable these days to ignore the law, but we do thankfully have a PM that respects the law.

Your post of 7.44am this morning talked about illegal immigrants.

Which is part of the reason I asked the question.

People on this thread who don’t seem to have any problem whatsoever with asylum seekers - are you happy for the situation to continue?
Do you have any concerns at all?

Asylum seekers have the right in law to decide in which country they wish to seek asylum. The law says absolutely nothing about the first safe country etc.

This are all misinformation, which people believe.

fancythat

^ but once here and asylum is sought, they are legal.

I wouldnt mind clearing that up actually.
At which precise moment do they become legal?

Asylum seekers are never illegal. That is what people fail to understand.

I know it seems to be fashionable these days to ignore the law, but we do thankfully have a PM that respects the law.

"No one puts their children in a boat unless the water is safer than the land

Safer than France? Or Greece? For some, yes.
It doesnt need to be the Uk.

No political will I assume, to sort this all out in Europe.
I am begining to wonder what Europe does sort out together.
I am getting increasingly fed up/annoyed with Europe.
Europe doesnt work.
NATO hopefully does and will.

^ but once here and asylum is sought, they are legal.

I wouldnt mind clearing that up actually.
At which precise moment do they become legal?

Tanjamaltija

Thank you👏👏👏

A reminder...

"No one puts their children in a boat unless the water is safer than the land"

no one leaves home unless
home is the mouth of a shark
you only run for the border
when you see the whole city running as well

your neighbours running faster than you
breath bloody in their throats
the boy you went to school with
who kissed you dizzy behind the old tin factory
is holding a gun bigger than his body
you only leave home
when home won't let you stay.

no one leaves home unless home chases you
fire under feet
hot blood in your belly
it's not something you ever thought of doing
until the blade burnt threats into
your neck
and even then you carried the anthem under
your breath
only tearing up your passport in an airport toilets
sobbing as each mouthful of paper
made it clear that you wouldn't be going back.

you have to understand,
that no one puts their children in a boat
unless the water is safer than the land
no one burns their palms
under trains
beneath carriages
no one spends days and nights in the stomach of a truck
feeding on newspaper unless the miles travelled
means something more than journey.
no one crawls under fences
no one wants to be beaten
pitied

no one chooses refugee camps
or strip searches where your
body is left aching
or prison,
because prison is safer
than a city of fire
and one prison guard
in the night
is better than a truckload
of men who look like your father
no one could take it
no one could stomach it
no one skin would be tough enough

the
go home blacks
refugees
dirty immigrants
asylum seekers
sucking our country dry
niggers with their hands out
they smell strange
savage
messed up their country and now they want
to mess ours up
how do the words
the dirty looks
roll off your backs
maybe because the blow is softer
than a limb torn off

or the words are more tender
than fourteen men between
your legs
or the insults are easier
to swallow
than rubble
than bone
than your child body
in pieces.
i want to go home,
but home is the mouth of a shark
home is the barrel of the gun
and no one would leave home
unless home chased you to the shore
unless home told you
to quicken your legs
leave your clothes behind
crawl through the desert
wade through the oceans
drown
save
be hunger
beg
forget pride
your survival is more important

no one leaves home until home is a sweaty voice in your ear
saying-
leave,
run away from me now
i dont know what i've become
but i know that anywhere
is safer than here.

What evidence do you have that "Many are criminals running from their crimes in their homeland". Or that "and will never integrate with us".

This is pure nasty "tarring all with the same brush". You are ignoring the fact that 95% of immigrants own our country are legal, are working with us, are not criminals, to further a racist agenda.

The Navy should patrol the Channel and turn the boats back. These immigrants have passed through several 'safe' countries before attempting to cross to the UK, but only Britain is stupid enough to give them bed, board and spending money!! I, for one, an absolutely sick if seeing these ILLEGAL immigrants wandering out streets. They are from a different culture with different values and will never integrate with us. Many are criminals running from their crimes in their homeland. Meanwhile, the UK taxpayers are funding them whilst many UK citizens are struggling!! These immigrants are not welcome, when will the Government get the message??

When will the govt (any govt) wake up and realise that these boats have to be stopped. As a country we are small with finite resources which currently are being spread ever more thinly. If we did not have these boat people coming in almost daily ( set to increase with the warmer weather) then we would have less pressure on the health service, housing, education and many other services which the majority of us have spent years paying taxes towards.

Rwanda was cruel

Rwanda wasn't a way of processing asylum applications to Britain. It was a one-way ticket.

At least one hotel chain is making unprecedented profits by housing immigrants with the cost borne by Government, oops sorry, the taxpayer

There’s definitely something more to your friend’s family story than you have been told Primrose53, as that’s not the norm. Relatives sponsored a young boy in Tanzania years ago to help him through college, he is now an adult, he must be around 40, and he has been over to see them in the UK several times in the last few years, on a tourist visa.

A great deal of social housing flats in London, high rise amongst others are lived in by foreign nationals.That includes successful asylum seekers and immigrants granted leave to stay.
To say that they have no effect on the housing market for social housing is a nonsense.