Now Trump is targeting the U.K. with tarriffs how should Sir Keir handle a response?

10% is his "minimum tariff" Allira

Nobody is getting less - except the "dubious" ones!

FriedGreenTomatoes2

^I think many will see Trump as an enemy of our country^

Hyperbolic nonsense PoliticsNerd! Trump isn’t an enemy of the UK. He’s just doing what he thinks is best for HIS country. No need to conflate the two. You can come out from under your bed, it’s safe.

FCT, he's making himself into an enemy.

Not just the tariffs, but the attempts to force certain ideologies on us, indulging threatening us on our judicial decisions as regards the abortion clinic in return for economic favours. And Musk demanding we welcome Tommy Robinson.

These attempts to blackmail/threaten us don't sit well with a majority. You yourself have said it was wrong to tie in the abortion clinic issue.

It didnt need to be like this.

Thank you fancythat
Do you think Donald worked it out all by himself?

Perhaps the mathematical formula works but Lesotho, for example, exports one type of high value goods to the USA, diamonds, and is hardly likely to be importing the same or similar value of goods from the USA.
(I can't post the formula, we've lost our image facility again)

What exactly are the Heard and McDonald Islands exporting and importing to and from the USA that they have had a 10% tariff imposed on them?

Does anyone know where the attachment paperclip has gone please?
@gransnet.com

FriedGreenTomatoes2

^I think many will see Trump as an enemy of our country^

Hyperbolic nonsense PoliticsNerd! Trump isn’t an enemy of the UK. He’s just doing what he thinks is best for HIS country. No need to conflate the two. You can come out from under your bed, it’s safe.

I rather think he is doing what is best for Trump - and the two do not coincide, as MAGA will soon be finding out.

Allira

Whitewavemark2

NotSpaghetti

You are right Wyllow.

Some of the poorest countries are facing particularly high tariffs
* Cambodia: 49%.
* Bangladesh: 37%
* Laos: 48%
* Lesotho: 50%
* Madagascar: 47%

These high levels will obviously impact any labor-intensive export industries, such as fabric/basket making/ garment manufacturing.

By reducing export competitiveness it seems obvious that poverty will increase.

Which is why the primary school level formula is so utterly ridiculous.

Any logic in this has completely passed me by.

Is there anyone who can explain it, please?

A double blow as Trump has practically stopped all overseas aid to poor countries, presumably in a drive to make some wealthy Americans even wealthier.

This

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93gq72n7y1o

I think many will see Trump as an enemy of our country

Hyperbolic nonsense PoliticsNerd! Trump isn’t an enemy of the UK. He’s just doing what he thinks is best for HIS country. No need to conflate the two. You can come out from under your bed, it’s safe.

allira there is no logic. It is primary school stuff. If Trump had a clear plan perhaps we could make sense of what he is doing. But hitting countries that in the long term will be more than useful as allies - Vietnam, India etc to say nothing of Europe makes zero sense.

We do know that lack of Tariffs have been his bete noire for years, suggesting that he is in it for the long term, but on the other hand! Who knows.

😁
He will keep shooting himself in the foot, won't he!

😂
You are right.

Its imported from China!

😂😂

"Out on Pennsylvania Avenue, workers unloaded pallets of metal fencing, which will ring the White House grounds in preparation for what officials anticipate to be a large anti-Trump demonstration at the nearby Washington Monument on Saturday. The first lady announced that a White House garden tour event that had been scheduled for that day was postponed because of security concerns.

I believe this metal safety fencing is imported into America.

Whitewavemark2

NotSpaghetti

You are right Wyllow.

Some of the poorest countries are facing particularly high tariffs
* Cambodia: 49%.
* Bangladesh: 37%
* Laos: 48%
* Lesotho: 50%
* Madagascar: 47%

These high levels will obviously impact any labor-intensive export industries, such as fabric/basket making/ garment manufacturing.

By reducing export competitiveness it seems obvious that poverty will increase.

Which is why the primary school level formula is so utterly ridiculous.

Any logic in this has completely passed me by.

Is there anyone who can explain it, please?

A double blow as Trump has practically stopped all overseas aid to poor countries, presumably in a drive to make some wealthy Americans even wealthier.

Wyllow3

A huge demonstration, definitely not a hug demonstration!

I read it as a hug demonstration and could go with that😄😄

TDSynrome

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This is a shame as I am sure your argument can be much more subtlety put without such rudeness.

You need to be cleverer in your arguments.

A huge demonstration, definitely not a hug demonstration!

I think Trump is living in la la land. From the BBC I player

"Out on Pennsylvania Avenue, workers unloaded pallets of metal fencing, which will ring the White House grounds in preparation for what officials anticipate to be a large anti-Trump demonstration at the nearby Washington Monument on Saturday. The first lady announced that a White House garden tour event that had been scheduled for that day was postponed because of security concerns.

Even the normally loquacious president stopped only briefly to talk with the crush of reporters on his way to board the Marine One helicopter on the first leg of his journey to Florida.

"I said this would be exactly the way it is," he declared when asked about the day's stock market turmoil. The markets - and America as a whole - would soon boom, he said.

I'm hoping its a hug demonstration.

Meanwhile - how should we respond in the UK? There is a shortage of news - officially we are "in talks" but I reckon we are also 'waiting to see

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Unfortunately TDSynrome Trump is a cult leader.
In my opinion

There is a tad difference between your last post and the one asking for all Nazis to be killed.

That makes you worse then them, because you are apparently thinking critically.

But I don’t want to get into this sort of argument and it is both fruitless and time wasting.

Wyllow3

All I confined on the why of oil prices is

"HOUSTON, April 4 (Reuters) - Oil prices plunged 7% on Friday to settle at their lowest in over three years as China ramped up tariffs on U.S. goods, escalating a trade war that has led investors to price in a higher probability of recession.

which we dont want whatever the quirks of the oil market.

Oh I see. They see a recession coming.
It was very marked around here, whenever the previous one was.
Less cars on the road. Plus they were driving at around 60mph and not 70mph, to save on fuel consumption.

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petra

^oil prices tumbling, I don’t understand this^
Let’s support you bought 6 eggs in Tesco’s yesterday for £1.50.
Then today those same eggs were 75p that would mean the price of eggs in Tesco’s are tumbling.
It’s not rocket science is it 🤦🏼‍♀️

That is not what I meant, which you well understand.

Your daily jibes to me over the last 6 months, had stopped for a week.

But I am forced now to report you, sadly

TDSynrome

PoliticsNerd

TDSyndome I know quite a bit about denazification after the war as my family were living there àt that time. I didn't know that nazis' lost their right to vote.

I can see the relationship between Hitler’s tactics at the beginning of war and Trump's when it comes to stopping or negating the votes any not likely to vote for him. It does seem as if there are some democratic judges who are standing up to him. I certainly don't envy them as it will takea lot of courage.

"I didn't know that nazis' lost their right to vote."

Nazis lost their right to vote when they were put 6 feet under. Which is where they all belong.

Pity about the excessive language.

A little more subtlety and rational argument will go much further and be more convincing in the U.K.

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NotSpaghetti

You are right Wyllow.

Some of the poorest countries are facing particularly high tariffs
* Cambodia: 49%.
* Bangladesh: 37%
* Laos: 48%
* Lesotho: 50%
* Madagascar: 47%

These high levels will obviously impact any labor-intensive export industries, such as fabric/basket making/ garment manufacturing.

By reducing export competitiveness it seems obvious that poverty will increase.

Which is why the primary school level formula is so utterly ridiculous.