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Stand up to the bully - buy British!

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CvD66 Thu 03-Apr-25 14:18:26

Are you feeling powerless while watching the US president seeking to upset the world order? How about following the approach used to help stop apartheid in 1980s and focus on buying British? One person might not make a difference but if more of us try to implement this, the impact could be significant. It is working for Canada resulting in 4 Republicans in states near the US/Canada border voting against tariffs, in the senate, due to the pleas of their constituents. However it would mean avoiding Cocoa cola, MacDonalds, Amazon among others. Don't be powerless - take action!

Allira Fri 04-Apr-25 11:04:56

growstuff

Here are some brands to add to the banned list:

Tropicana
Doritos
Quaker Foods
Naked
Costa Coffee
Kraft
Heinz
Philadelphia
Maxwell House
Daddies
HP Sauce
Mars
Snickers
Skittles
Starburst
M&Ms
Ben's Original
Bounty
Dolmio
Maltesers
Pedigree Petfoods
Royal Canin
Twix
Milky Way
Whiskas
Galaxy
Cadbury

Personally, I won't bother because it won't make much difference to the ultimate owners. The really wealthy people are as above. In any case, the big food producers operate in the UK and employ British people. TBH I don't buy much from the list anyway.

Personally, I won't bother because it won't make much difference to the ultimate owners. The really wealthy people are as above. In any case, the big food producers operate in the UK and employ British people. TBH I don't buy much from the list anyway.

Well, I shall carry on buying HP sauce with its Houses of Parliament label!

I will not buy Tesla car, but then, I wasn't going to buy one anyway.

As I said, you could tie yourself in knots trying to avoid certain goods and companies but you could then be putting British jobs in jeopardy.

Cossy Fri 04-Apr-25 11:02:46

Casdon

I’ve done some coffee research, Cafe Nero is a UK/Europe company (and their coffee is nicer than Starbucks or Costa).
At home I drink Taylor’s coffee, and Monmouth Coffee Company beans, both British owned.

Cafe Nero is great.

ayse Fri 04-Apr-25 11:00:28

Our capitalists exported their industries to other countries to avoid paying decent wages and reselling products to make higher profits and pay lower taxes.

Jute manufacturing in Dundee was moved to Calcutta (old name). Manufacture of cotton wares was moved back to India and so it goes on.

Allira Fri 04-Apr-25 10:58:37

growstuff

Allira

Chatte

I recently bought some cotton tea cloths, which advertised that they were British made. When they arrived printed on the label was a union jack flag made in Britain and in very small print at the bottom of the label it said ' made in Pakistan'. I did query this with the seller and they said " they buy rolls of cotton from Pakistan and make the tea cloths themselves.

We don't have a cotton industry in this country any more, apart from a very small industry

That's what I was thinking. Cotton itself has always been imported and I don't think there any cotton mills left.

My DC attempted to grow cotton plants years ago but it was never going to succeed commercially - three under 10s growing it on the kitchen windowsill! 😀
Quite interesting, though.

Casdon Fri 04-Apr-25 10:57:33

I’ve done some coffee research, Cafe Nero is a UK/Europe company (and their coffee is nicer than Starbucks or Costa).
At home I drink Taylor’s coffee, and Monmouth Coffee Company beans, both British owned.

Allira Fri 04-Apr-25 10:56:07

Mt61

Jane43- I think both those super markets are really expensive, I didn’t realise they were American owned. I don’t use them anyway 😅

My above pot was in reply to Jane43 and Mt61

Allira Fri 04-Apr-25 10:55:00

Asda was owned by Walmart (since 1999) but it has been acquired by TDRCapital, a British Equity Company, apart from a 10% stake still owned by Walmart.

Morrison's is owned by a private equity company too, which is based in America.

We perhaps should be more aware of just who owns what as private equity companies own care homes, household names such as Boots, the AA etc.

Cossy Fri 04-Apr-25 10:54:35

growstuff

OK petra I read that link and it's clear that the US has a huge trade deficit with Germany, but I'm not sure how it shows that Germany has been shafting the US. Presumably Germany has been producing goods the US couldn't produce itself, but nobody was forcing the US to buy from Germany. The US could have looked for other sellers or started producing the goods itself. I expect there were negotiations about price and, as in all business transactions, deals were reached. How is that being shafted? The result of increased tariffs will increase the price of the goods or mean that the US will have to go without goods for which it has in the past not been able to find another supplier and can't produce itself.

I simply do not believe ANY country has, as Trump states below:-

“Trump and administration officials, however, are plowing full steam ahead, arguing America's been unfairly "ripped off" by other nations for years and it's time for reciprocity.

"For decades, our country has been looted, pillaged, raped and plundered by nations near and far, both friend and foe alike," Trump said on Wednesday.”

As POTUS states above, he clearly believes this make believe assertion, however those outside “Trumpland” may feel otherwise.

Trump is taking (another) huge gamble and I’m certain someday, hopefully soon, this will all come crashing down.

How sad I feel for those living across the pond who didn’t vote for this, including dear friends and relatives

growstuff Fri 04-Apr-25 10:48:48

Allira

Chatte

I recently bought some cotton tea cloths, which advertised that they were British made. When they arrived printed on the label was a union jack flag made in Britain and in very small print at the bottom of the label it said ' made in Pakistan'. I did query this with the seller and they said " they buy rolls of cotton from Pakistan and make the tea cloths themselves.

We don't have a cotton industry in this country any more, apart from a very small industry

That's what I was thinking. Cotton itself has always been imported and I don't think there any cotton mills left.

growstuff Fri 04-Apr-25 10:47:46

Here are some brands to add to the banned list:

Tropicana
Doritos
Quaker Foods
Naked
Costa Coffee
Kraft
Heinz
Philadelphia
Maxwell House
Daddies
HP Sauce
Mars
Snickers
Skittles
Starburst
M&Ms
Ben's Original
Bounty
Dolmio
Maltesers
Pedigree Petfoods
Royal Canin
Twix
Milky Way
Whiskas
Galaxy
Cadbury

Personally, I won't bother because it won't make much difference to the ultimate owners. The really wealthy people are as above. In any case, the big food producers operate in the UK and employ British people. TBH I don't buy much from the list anyway.

Allira Fri 04-Apr-25 10:44:36

Chatte

I recently bought some cotton tea cloths, which advertised that they were British made. When they arrived printed on the label was a union jack flag made in Britain and in very small print at the bottom of the label it said ' made in Pakistan'. I did query this with the seller and they said " they buy rolls of cotton from Pakistan and make the tea cloths themselves.

We don't have a cotton industry in this country any more, apart from a very small industry

Cossy Fri 04-Apr-25 10:43:55

Baggs

I thought the reason for Trump slapping tariffs on other countries was in revenge for them slapping tariffs on their products being sold in the US. I thought his goal was to jerk other countries into removing their tariffs and even trade out a bit.

I'm all for buying British to support our own industries and businesses.

This is what Trump is claiming, however he is clearly deluded so I never know if what he is saying has any grains of truth.

There’s stuff we can easily not buy, but when it’s McD, KFC etc it’s not the USA who will directly suffer but the franchises and British staff.

Silverbrooks Fri 04-Apr-25 10:37:06

Exactly, growstuff.

Tariffs are just a tax on the people least able to afford it.

Simple explainer from political economist Richard Murphy:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwOrTz8Epgs

growstuff Fri 04-Apr-25 10:29:36

I don't think I could cope if I boycotted the real big players: Amazon, Facebook, Google and Microsoft. (I'd already given up on Twitter.)

growstuff Fri 04-Apr-25 10:27:58

Out of curiosity, I just looked up the richest people in the world (all men). Eight of the richest ten are American. Their combined total worth is $1,457.2 billion.

Apart from Tesla, not one of them produces any tangible goods - they're all services: X (Twitter), Amazon, Facebook, Oracle, Google, Microsoft. I wonder if that provides a clue as to why Trump has avoided tariffs on services.

It also occurred to me that if Trump wants some cash to plug holes in the US national debt, maybe these people could help out. Even just 10% of their wealth would be $147.5 billion, which I expect could help a bit.

Err ... no ... he's going to slap tariffs on imported goods, which will push up costs for ordinary Americans. (And maybe protect Tesla.)

sassenach512 Fri 04-Apr-25 10:26:39

I was in Aldi yesterday and noticed the shelves with Californian wines were full whereas wines from other countries were depleted. Coincidence maybe? or are people making a stand?

Maremia Fri 04-Apr-25 10:26:11

ayse, yes I worry about friends who go to visit family in the States. Advised one to delete lots on his phone.

Maremia Fri 04-Apr-25 10:24:51

Conflicting reports about Cadbury in Google search. It's British, it's American. They still sell it in Russia despite sanctions. Use child labour in Ghana.

glasshalffullagain Fri 04-Apr-25 10:24:15

Maremia

I stand with Pingu.

You might as well. The world has gone mad.

ayse Fri 04-Apr-25 10:16:20

Listening to Radio 4 yesterday evening, they were discussing chlorinated chicken. The process is designed to kill all the salmonella. Apparently it doesn’t.

I hope this current government will not allow the import of chicken and antibiotic beef from the USA, nor allow them to impose on the NHS. USA are no longer to be trusted.

I’ll be changing my i-products to others. Fairphone, based in Netherlands but no idea what pad. No Cola products, Starbucks etc. Look on Amazon and see if the smaller company has its own website with .co.uk. I generated only buy fresh fruit and vegetables so label reading is a must.

I feel sorry for all those in the USA who rely on tourism but some of the deportation and detention horror stories put me off ever visiting the USA again.

Maremia Fri 04-Apr-25 09:56:03

Luckygirl 3, let's make our own list. Everyday products.

Maremia Fri 04-Apr-25 09:54:26

Chocolate...we all can do that one. Any suggestions?

Mt61 Fri 04-Apr-25 09:17:05

Jane43- I think both those super markets are really expensive, I didn’t realise they were American owned. I don’t use them anyway 😅

Chatte Fri 04-Apr-25 09:15:23

I recently bought some cotton tea cloths, which advertised that they were British made. When they arrived printed on the label was a union jack flag made in Britain and in very small print at the bottom of the label it said ' made in Pakistan'. I did query this with the seller and they said " they buy rolls of cotton from Pakistan and make the tea cloths themselves.

Mt61 Fri 04-Apr-25 09:13:12

I don’t use any of those places. Like to use our local shops, the village iron monger has just closed down because it can’t keep up with amazon, plus the town rates. I hate coke, too tight to buy Starbucks & wouldn’t use them on principle anyway.