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Stand up to the bully - buy British!

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CvD66 Thu 03-Apr-25 14:18:26

Are you feeling powerless while watching the US president seeking to upset the world order? How about following the approach used to help stop apartheid in 1980s and focus on buying British? One person might not make a difference but if more of us try to implement this, the impact could be significant. It is working for Canada resulting in 4 Republicans in states near the US/Canada border voting against tariffs, in the senate, due to the pleas of their constituents. However it would mean avoiding Cocoa cola, MacDonalds, Amazon among others. Don't be powerless - take action!

Crossstitchfan Mon 07-Apr-25 13:06:36

Gwenisgreat1

I, certainly, shall be trying harder to avoid buying from the U.S. - can't stand his smug orange face! Can't remember when I last visited MacDonalds, Starbucks, or bought Coke or Pepsi. I'm not interested in owning aa Tesla.
For your interest, do you know what trump is slang for?Literally, a trump is either a playing card with an arbitrary high rank, or a loud blast on a wind-instrument: hence “trumpet”. So in British slang a trump is the sort of fart that makes a loud noise, like a squeaky flute.

A perfect description of him then - a loud fart!

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 07-Apr-25 09:21:47

Wyllow and Maremia, I understand that the plans for a revision (!) of child labour laws proposes a potential for 14 year old children to work night shifts.
Presumably, this allows them to attend school in the day, avoiding any criticism of such children's education suffering...
The mill owners of the Victorian era are their labour employer model, perhaps.

HS62 Mon 07-Apr-25 07:45:59

I would buy everything British if the prices were lower than everyone else. It seems daft that something grown on our own turf is double the price of goods imported. Visit a farm shop and see the difference. It's such a shame. X

Wyllow3 Mon 07-Apr-25 01:23:13

Maremia

Not sure what the lower age limit will be, as changing the rules for child employment is still under discussion, but with the standards of ethics demonstrated so far in this Presidency, I don't think much will surprise me.

Been googling:

Currently it stands at 14 in general

but if its a family business

"Can a 12 year old child work?
12-year-old children are allowed to work for their parents on the condition that their parents are the sole owners of the business they are working for. They can work at any time of day and for any number of hours, according to federal family business child labor laws. State laws vary -- check your local regulations."

Maybe they are referring to 14 year olds working more?

Maremia Sun 06-Apr-25 17:57:05

Can't remember if I said on this thread, but apparently lots of countries are setting up informal links and lists for dealing with the Tantrum Tariffs.

Maremia Sun 06-Apr-25 17:54:18

Not sure what the lower age limit will be, as changing the rules for child employment is still under discussion, but with the standards of ethics demonstrated so far in this Presidency, I don't think much will surprise me.

ronib Sun 06-Apr-25 17:44:47

Okay by me Allira

Allira Sun 06-Apr-25 17:06:57

I am not blissfully unaware at all, ronib and won't respond further to your rude post.

You obviously have no idea what I said.

ronib Sun 06-Apr-25 17:03:55

You seem blissfully unaware that the tariffs war wouldn’t be an issue if consumers cut down considerably on non essentials Allira. I buy books, DVDs and some children’s clothes from charity shops and then aim to return once used. Do you not understand this concept? £3 for a nearly new child’s winter jacket is an essential item btw.

Allira Sun 06-Apr-25 16:55:44

Yes, Ronib, recycle, save money and the environment by shopping in charity shops.

I'll have another declutter 😁

Allira Sun 06-Apr-25 16:54:55

Maremia

Not to worry Allira , that the cheap labour is being deported because, great idea, they plan to make it easier to employ children.
Yes, Ronib, recycle, save money and the environment by shopping in charity shops.
Cateq, I thought they were trying to crash the economy, so that the very rich could hoover up resources and become more powerful.

Oh yes, I forgot the children!
Brilliant idea. They don't need sleep.
Start 'em young - is seven too old to get them trained?

Norah Sun 06-Apr-25 15:54:41

Casdon

I suspect many Americans will still buy quality cars from Europe, even with a 25% tariff. Sales may well drop, but they won’t disappear. I looked up BMW as an example, they sold 16.9% of their cars to USA last year. Not being rude to the USA, but Europeans don’t want their huge gas guzzlers, our roads and petrol prices would prohibit them even if they were thought to be desirable.

Agreed.

We don't drive through open spaces at high speeds. They do.

We've high price petrol, they've cheap gas.

Wyllow3 Sun 06-Apr-25 15:54:32

Informative snippet:

" used Tesla values have dropped significantly in the UK, with some models experiencing a 22% price fall since February 2024, and Tesla models dominating the biggest used car price drops"

(I just googled it)

Casdon Sun 06-Apr-25 15:43:29

I suspect many Americans will still buy quality cars from Europe, even with a 25% tariff. Sales may well drop, but they won’t disappear. I looked up BMW as an example, they sold 16.9% of their cars to USA last year. Not being rude to the USA, but Europeans don’t want their huge gas guzzlers, our roads and petrol prices would prohibit them even if they were thought to be desirable.

Norah Sun 06-Apr-25 15:29:11

Macadia

petra

Mercedes have had a plant in Alabama since 1995.
All engines and parts are made in Germany, exported to the US and assembled.
The reason: cheap Labour.
Several German car manufacturers are eying up the US to manufacture the whole vehicle because of the high energy costs in Europe.
Germany have been shafting the US for years irrespective of which president they had.

I think IKEA uses the US for cheap labor, too.

BMW parts made in Germany, exported, US assembled by robots. I'd think this matters not to those who buy expensive imports.

Maremia Sun 06-Apr-25 15:03:24

Not to worry Allira , that the cheap labour is being deported because, great idea, they plan to make it easier to employ children.
Yes, Ronib, recycle, save money and the environment by shopping in charity shops.
Cateq, I thought they were trying to crash the economy, so that the very rich could hoover up resources and become more powerful.

Allira Sun 06-Apr-25 12:18:13

Fine if you can trek round the charity shops.
I'm trying not to buy things I don't need, another reason to stay out of vintage or charity shops.

However, there'd be nothing to buy in the charity shops if other people didn't donate their surplus stuff!

ronib Sun 06-Apr-25 12:12:48

I can’t help ask why do humans feel the need to buy so much? It makes sense to buy quality and keep it for a long time thus cutting down on landfill. Buy vintage or charity shop items, save a pile of money and also cut down on landfill. Simple.

Allira Sun 06-Apr-25 11:44:00

Macadia

Cateq

Apparently Trumps rational for the tariffs is to crash the economy in order for interest rates to fall therefore allowing them to restructure their debt and reduce their repayments.

Cateq, you hit the nail on the head with this one. Good job.

Cateq
Of course!

The USA's debt is over $34 trillion.
They got in this mess now the rest of the world has to suffer.

Allira Sun 06-Apr-25 11:41:27

Macadia

petra

Mercedes have had a plant in Alabama since 1995.
All engines and parts are made in Germany, exported to the US and assembled.
The reason: cheap Labour.
Several German car manufacturers are eying up the US to manufacture the whole vehicle because of the high energy costs in Europe.
Germany have been shafting the US for years irrespective of which president they had.

I think IKEA uses the US for cheap labor, too.

But is the cheap labour being deported?

Macadia Sun 06-Apr-25 08:07:20

Cateq

Apparently Trumps rational for the tariffs is to crash the economy in order for interest rates to fall therefore allowing them to restructure their debt and reduce their repayments.

Cateq, you hit the nail on the head with this one. Good job.

Macadia Sun 06-Apr-25 07:54:56

petra

Mercedes have had a plant in Alabama since 1995.
All engines and parts are made in Germany, exported to the US and assembled.
The reason: cheap Labour.
Several German car manufacturers are eying up the US to manufacture the whole vehicle because of the high energy costs in Europe.
Germany have been shafting the US for years irrespective of which president they had.

I think IKEA uses the US for cheap labor, too.

nanna8 Sun 06-Apr-25 07:40:34

Do you have Chemist Warehouse ? That seems to be the biggest one here. No idea who owns it, possibly China knowing us.

jocork Sun 06-Apr-25 03:16:24

Uppercase79

I urge Boots customers to cultivate local pharmacies - Walgreen (who own Boots) are in a bad way, as is Boots. I find all the smaller Boots’ shops to have little stock and poor staff, it’s only the massive Boots in shopping malls who have any stock. There are fewer staff in the smaller Boots, and as someone who can’t stand for long, the queues are a no-no.

Our local Boots closed a while ago and is now an independant pharmacy offering lots of new services. Since all the LLoyds chemists in Sainburys have now closed too I'm having my prescriptions sent to the independant pharmacy and am getting a great service.
After reading a thread on here last week about the various supermarkets I went to Lidl for the first time in ages and got some real bargains. Many of their products are made in the EU so I'll be going there more often now.

Casdon Sat 05-Apr-25 20:07:20

I hardly think Americans are going to starve because British consumers decide to buy goods made in our own country to support the UK when we can Freya5. You got a bit carried away there.