Dan Norris has been arrested and suspended from the Labour Party following rape and child sex allegations

Just checked. No it doesnt automatically happen if an MP is suspended but

"New rules in Parliament mean that a risk assessment is carried out when an MP is arrested on suspicion of a violent or sexual offence, which can decide to ban them from the Parliamentary estate"

Obviously this applies in the case.

Oreo

25Avalon

Dan Norris has been banned from the WECA offices with his key fob deactivated.

Doesn’t that always happen if an MP is suspended?

Banned not as an MP but his separate role as WECA mayor. He is still technically mayor until the elections on 1st May but he cannot access the buildings or IT or any meetings.This was issued to staff as an assurance.

Makes sense. He still actually hasn't been charged with any specific offences, they have to collect evidence.

I assume in this sort of case, access is always denied to prevent the workplace computers being wiped of any evidence? I don’t know, but otherwise that is a risk.

25Avalon

Dan Norris has been banned from the WECA offices with his key fob deactivated.

Doesn’t that always happen if an MP is suspended?

He’s access to Westminster also revoked. There is more to this case in this circumstance.

Dan Norris has been banned from the WECA offices with his key fob deactivated.

25Avalon

Thank you easybee.

Nana49 I suggest you start your own thread about JRM and leave mine alone.

It's not actually "your" thread, that's not how it works. It's an open forum, if you want your very own thread, that's called a blog.
You don't get to control what people write I'm afraid.

Thank you easybee.

Nana49 I suggest you start your own thread about JRM and leave mine alone.

Easybee I agree that all charges made recently are relevant and Norris of course has rightly been suspended and awaiting trial.

But it's frustrating in terms of the selection story because only the Telegraph is pushing the story of what Starmer is supposed to have known when Norris was actually selected -

there is no other source nor fact check. (just repeats of the Telegraph story on SM)

As Casdon said
"It may have escaped the notice of the Telegraph that even if Starmer was made aware of another potential case against Norris, (and the League Against Cruel sports btw)

the candidates for the elections had been selected well prior to June, as the election was on 4th July?

Whether Starmer should have taken action at that point, when there was no substantiated information except the word of a displaced chief executive who presumably has an axe to grind is doubtful."

TerriBull

Maybe "the known twat" could be the lesser of two evils in such a context, and I suspect it would be a story if the aforementioned "twat" or indeed any other "twats" whatever their political persuasion were at the centre of such a controversy. Depending on the outcome, this Labour MP could well morph into such a definition and join the ranks of his predecessor. As there is an enormous spectrum of behaviour that goes into the constitution of "A twat" and it does seem Mr Norris may well have some of the defining characteristics. Strangely they're not confined to one political party

What is the actual story in this case though TerriBull? Do you think that the alleged bullying allegation by a displaced employee would have been newsworthy if it hadn’t come on the back of the later, much more serious allegations? I suspect not, unless it had come to court, because there are many people with grievances against their former managers, including those in politics. I think the Telegraph is knowingly making something of very little in this case.

Neatly put, TerriBull.

Maybe "the known twat" could be the lesser of two evils in such a context, and I suspect it would be a story if the aforementioned "twat" or indeed any other "twats" whatever their political persuasion were at the centre of such a controversy. Depending on the outcome, this Labour MP could well morph into such a definition and join the ranks of his predecessor. As there is an enormous spectrum of behaviour that goes into the constitution of "A twat" and it does seem Mr Norris may well have some of the defining characteristics. Strangely they're not confined to one political party

So as suspected eazybee the assertion that Starmer was aware in June last year that Norris has been involved in sexual offences against children is unrelated to the Telegraph article. Thanks for confirming that.

It may have escaped the notice of the Telegraph that even if Starmer was made aware of another potential case against Norris, the candidates for the elections had been selected well prior to June, as the election was on 4th July? Whether Starmer should have taken action at that point, when there was no substantiated information except the word of a displaced chief executive who presumably has an axe to grind is doubtful.

Rees Mogg is a known twat & people have to have something to talk about.

What a shame you have to resort to vulgar language when you seek to express your opinion, Nana49.

Keir Starmer was warned in writing that Dan Norris had been accused of bullying and harassment in June last year before he was elected in the General Election. He was informed by Andy Knott, a former charity boss, who is suing Mr. Norris and the League against Cruel Sports, claiming he was forced out as Chief Executive for refusing to accept Labour's action on trail hunting. He blames Starmer for allowing Norris to stand as Labour candidate knowing there were legal charges in process.
Norris is also accused of bullying and harassment by West of England Authority, and also spending £10,000 of public money on a self-promoting advert, and of sexual offences referred by another Police force, (no further details given.)
Paraphrased from DT 8.4.25.

25Avalon

Why have some GNetters hijacked my post to denigrate Jacob Rees Mogg? I was not writing about JRM but about Dan Norris MP and WECA Mayor. According to The Telegraph they have seen documents relating to his alleged bullying and harassment of staff whilst Mayor. It is claimed tax payers money was used to pay off staff complaining. If true it is very damning.

Well because Dan Norris has not been found guilty he's just been charged. It's not really a story & there's nothing else to report.
Rees Mogg is a known twat & people have to have something to talk about 😂

25Avalon

It was one headline in The Telegraph which I couldn’t read because of the pay wall. Now able to read a bit more and it seems it is the bullying and harassment that Starmer was made aware of.

I'm not denying it might have happened, but you've given no evidence, can you give a reference? How can we make an assessment?

Disagree away. People are multi faceted & that's a scientific fact. No-one is all bad. Like no-one is all good. We're all just learning.

It was one headline in The Telegraph which I couldn’t read because of the pay wall. Now able to read a bit more and it seems it is the bullying and harassment that Starmer was made aware of.

glasshalfullagain 👍🏻🙈

25Avalon

It appears Starmer knew of and ignored allegations about Norris last June. Clearly he should not have been permitted to stand as MP.

Really? Like Starmer ignored so called grooming gangs and the Saville accusations?

Are you referring to this allegation in the Telegraph?

"Starmer ‘ignored’ calls to investigate MP accused of bullying
Labour leader was told Dan Norris faced legal action over bullying complaint at charity, according to Andy Knott"

It's behind a pay block, but clearly doesn't refer to the allegations of child abuse and rape offences. I feel the need for more verified information apart from a hostile news story here before

"Clearly he should not have been permitted to stand as MP"

But surely he was one of Starmer's "quality candidates".
Good job he never stood on a picket line or Starmer would never have backed him.

It appears Starmer knew of and ignored allegations about Norris last June. Clearly he should not have been permitted to stand as MP.