The USA Federal Court has backed Trump on kicking out the criminals.

Government Attorneys are refusing to provide information on the whereabouts of the innocent Maryland man in El Slavador.

"The Trump administration is declining today to tell a federal judge the whereabouts or status of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, the man mistakenly deported to El Salvador last month despite a court order.

“I am asking a very simple question: Where is he?” US District Judge Paula Xinis said at the start of a hearing in Greenbelt, Maryland.

Department of Justice attorney Drew Ensign said he did not have the answer. “I do not have that information provided to me.”

“There is no evidence today as to where he is today,” the judge said later. “That is extremely troubling.”"

www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-news-administration-tariffs-04-11-25#cm9d1dcgf00003b6pv8sc2c9e

I am starting to think the worst has happened. This is scary for anyone in the US. Trumps teams can round people off the streets, no matter their legal status, ship them off to a prison in another country and leave them there. With his obsession with those opposed to him, this could get scary.

Jackiest

"Stock markets surged higher after Donald Trump said " why would the Stock Market rise on what Trump says. Surely the people running the Stock Market have more intelligence than to believe anything Trump says.

But some of what he says, happens.

All the people running the stock market do is process trades. The decision to trade is made by stockholders.

The rich ones were selling held stocks last week in preparation for the tariffs. When they tanked, they all bought the dip. It is illegal stock manipulation.

The Government responded regarding this case. They basically said no, they won't return the innocent Maryland man to the US.

We will see what happen next. No one really knows.

"Stock markets surged higher after Donald Trump said " why would the Stock Market rise on what Trump says. Surely the people running the Stock Market have more intelligence than to believe anything Trump says.

imaround

Wanted to update as this came in late.

After the Supreme Courts ruling on Monday, the case of the Maryland man who has wrongly deported to El Salvador is back in district Court. They have ordered Trumps attorneys into court tomorrow with a plan on returning the main to Maryland.

Since this has been to the Supreme Court and back, and unsuccessful for Trump, we are at a point where what happens next will be interesting. He has no more legal challenges. He lost this battle. Will he comply or not. And what happens if he doesnt? I have no idea.

"ORDER Amending 21 ORDER granting 6 Plaintiffs' Motion for TRO, construed as a Motion for Preliminary Injunctive Relief to DIRECT that Defendants take all available steps to facilitate the return of Abrego Garcia to the United States as soon as possible and to file, by no later than 9:30 AM ET on Friday, April 11, 2025, a supplemental declaration. The Court will hold an in-person status conference on Friday, April 11, 2025 at 1:00 PM ET, in Greenbelt, Maryland. Signed by Judge Paula Xinis on 4/10/2025. (kns, Deputy Clerk) (Entered: 04/10/2025)"

The Supreme Court are cowards. They lay down a principle - this man should be brought home - but then hand it down to a lower court to avoid actioning it.

CNN

"“The Supreme Court’s opinion today gives the administration cover to ‘try’ to bring him home but does not require the federal government – the executive branch – to bring Mr. Abrego Garcia home,” Elora Mukherjee, director of the Immigrants’ Rights Clinic at Columbia Law School, told CNN. “It’s a decision that doesn’t protect Mr. Abrego Garcia to the fullest extent that the law should.”

It would be positive for you, yes. Some of the worlds brightest.

Maybe we will gain some skilled migrants from those fleeing the Trump regime. That at least would be a positive.

I forgot the link. This is the entire court case if you are a legal eagle and understand it all.

www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

Wanted to update as this came in late.

After the Supreme Courts ruling on Monday, the case of the Maryland man who has wrongly deported to El Salvador is back in district Court. They have ordered Trumps attorneys into court tomorrow with a plan on returning the main to Maryland.

Since this has been to the Supreme Court and back, and unsuccessful for Trump, we are at a point where what happens next will be interesting. He has no more legal challenges. He lost this battle. Will he comply or not. And what happens if he doesnt? I have no idea.

"ORDER Amending 21 ORDER granting 6 Plaintiffs' Motion for TRO, construed as a Motion for Preliminary Injunctive Relief to DIRECT that Defendants take all available steps to facilitate the return of Abrego Garcia to the United States as soon as possible and to file, by no later than 9:30 AM ET on Friday, April 11, 2025, a supplemental declaration. The Court will hold an in-person status conference on Friday, April 11, 2025 at 1:00 PM ET, in Greenbelt, Maryland. Signed by Judge Paula Xinis on 4/10/2025. (kns, Deputy Clerk) (Entered: 04/10/2025)"

From the article.

"Now, the administration is taking drastic steps to pressure some of those immigrants and others who had legal status to “self-deport” by effectively canceling the Social Security numbers they had lawfully obtained, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times and interviews with six people familiar with the plans.

The goal is to cut those people off from using crucial financial services like bank accounts and credit cards, along with their access to government benefits.

The effort hinges on a surprising new tactic: repurposing Social Security’s “death master file,” which for years has been used to track dead people who should no longer receive benefits, to include the names of living people who the government believes should be treated as if they are dead. As a result of being added to the death database, they would be blacklisted from a coveted form of identification that allows them to make and more easily spend money."

Trump is going to freeze the assets of LEGAL migrants who refuse to self deport.

Not illegal migrants. LEGAL ones.

He is going to shut down their access to earned funds and take it the money away from them.

www.nytimes.com/2025/04/10/us/politics/migrants-deport-social-security-doge.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-k4.F9md.GJ65WU2pdNt9&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

I haven't. I'll add it to my watch list. I have a week until ep 4 of Handmaid's Tale comes out, so I need something.

I laugh when people say, well Americans can do this job. If that were true, we would never have appealed to the migrant workers in the first place. There would be no need to fill these jobs.

When they tried to remove migrant farm workers in the past, they ended up trying to use prison labor because no one wanted these jobs.

Imaround
Have you seen the film A day without a Mexican?
It’s very funny in parts but with a serous message.
The story is that one day a smog descends on California and all the Mexican workers disappear.
It shows how dependent the population are on migrant workers.

www.imdb.com/title/tt0377744/reviews/

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Mind you if I lived in the areas where these ‘bad-ass’ types lived I’d be delighted to see them rounded up and shipped out.

FGT, a lot of US citizens live in areas where its dangerous to live and there are not high levels of immigrants! Home grown.

I am sure most people don't want criminals living near them. Except not all of these people are illegals nor criminals. Even if they are, they are human beings and should be treated, at the very least, in accordance to UN Human Rights council rules. Instead, he removed the US from the Human Rights Council and is now participating in what would be considered war crimes if we were at war.

He is violating peoples civil rights and treating them like cattle. It isn't a good look for him, nor anyone who supports his methods. The lack of empathy is astounding in both groups. There is a better way he could be doing all of this but he doesn't care.

Mind you if I lived in the areas where these ‘bad-ass’ types lived I’d be delighted to see them rounded up and shipped out.

It is the lack of humanity that is so shocking IMO. These are people, not commodities.

“The Trump administration’s officials have started saying the quiet part out loud. Acting ICE director Todd Lyons said that he wanted to see a deportation process “like [Amazon] Prime, but with human beings,” and that he thinks we should be “treating this like a business.”

Lyons appeared along with other Trump officials at the 2025 Border Security Expo in Phoenix, Arizona. He spoke of new technology that could be used in the deportation process, including using AI to “free up bed space” and “fill up airplanes” to increase the pace of deportations.“

I enjoyed our conversation and got to learn about the different types of asylum today! Something I am sure I learned in school a long, long time ago and forgot.

www.britannica.com/topic/asylum

4th paragraph - i meant Trump could never have been right on that one.

Rest, I will come back to later/another time

AI gave me a quick answer that basically applying for asylum at Embassies was never a practice.

US law says asylum seekers must be present in the US to claim asylum.

It does say that Diplomatic asylum seekers can present themselves at embassies, but not all US Embassies will accept them.

www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jul/10/raul-labrador/no-immigrants-cannot-apply-asylum-us-embassies-or-/#:~:text=U.S.%20Citizenship%20and%20Immigration%20Services%2C%20Asylum%2C%20Last%20Reviewed/Updated,17%2C%202012

The 4th is true and proof has already been provided.

My opinion on 7 was formed, as I stated in my previous post, because he is targeting legal migrants as well as illegal migrants.

So being illegal must not be his only reason.

I am going to go research the asylum question. You peaked my interest.

1st paragraph, true

2nd paragraph, glad you agree

3rd paragraph, I need to look more into that

4th paragraph, well that couldnt really be true

5th paragraph, looks wrong behaviour by him, at first glance

6th paragraph, if true, that is wrong behaviour

7th paragraph - your opinion.
Being illegal isnt the way to go.

I keep thinking, who was the person who stopped people being able to apply for assylum in embassies.
I cant find the answer on goo gle.

I always said 25% of the group he rounded up. I never said it was 25% of all immigrants.

25% of all immigrants would be high, yes.

25% of small subset of people in this instance is low. Because his goal was to find 100% of criminals and he couldn't. Because in the entire population of immigrants, only 0.15% of them are criminals.

His rhetoric that all migrants are hardened criminals and gang members does not match up to the actual numbers.

None of these numbers matter when you look at the facts that 1) he lied about only rounding up violent criminals 2) when he couldn't find only violent criminals, he lied and said those who are not criminals were 3) he put them in detention centers without access to lawyers and then 4) sent them to a prison in another country without actually being convicted of a crime and now 5) says no one has any jurisdiction to bring these innocent people back where they were wrongly placed.

He is now deporting legal migrants. The ones who did things right, and played by the rules and came here legally. None of these people have committed any crimes, work and pay taxes.

Which leads me to the conclusion that it really isn't about the right/wrong way to migrate or crime, as I have heard from Trump supporters in the US for years.

fancythat

imaround

Also, 75% of people deported were found to have no criminal record. He is targeting LEGAL migrants right now.

www.cbsnews.com/news/what-records-show-about-migrants-sent-to-salvadoran-prison-60-minutes-transcript/

Yikes though. Does mean 25% did.
That is a huge percentage.

Yet you were the one who quoted 75%, and by definition 25% in the first place!