Astronaut Katy Perry.......

M0nica

She was married to Russell Brand for a couple of years

Personally, I am not sure how I feel about one of the richest men in the world paying for 7 women, chosen for their looks and desirability, in specially designed body flattering space suits to take a short trip into the sky as the optimal hen night for his fiancee.

Speaks to me more of very rich men jockeying for position in a male pecking order, in competition with Musk et al. both on technology and being able to collect together 7 women to take the ride. A bit like a harem.

Amanda Nguyen is a bioastronautics research scientist and activist. She put her astronautics career on hold to work extremely hard for many years to ensure a change in laws relating to rape both in the US and internationally. Amazing woman.

Barrygirl

Amanda Nguyen who was one of the "gals" was an exception: she is an astronaut in training who was nominated for a Nobel Prize 2019 - she previously suspended her space training when she was raped and went on to draft the Sexual Assault Survivors' Rights Act which was passed unanimously through the United States Assembly. We should applaud her - she also carried out experiments during the few short minutes she was in space.

Indeed.

Also in the 'crew" "Aisha Bowe is a former NASA rocket scientist, entrepreneur, and global STEM advocate. She is the CEO of STEMBoard, an engineering firm twice named to the Inc. 5000 list, and founder of LINGO, an edtech company aiming to equip one million students with essential tech skills."

My definition of accomplished is broader. I think the world is full of accomplished women. The woman I know who has cared for and advocated for her severely disabled child for a quarter of a century. A friend who was born without lower limbs but never let it stop her from doing what she wanted is accomplished. A single mother who has raised a family of wonderful children despite impoverishment has accomplished an admirable thing.

Amanda Nguyen who was one of the "gals" was an exception: she is an astronaut in training who was nominated for a Nobel Prize 2019 - she previously suspended her space training when she was raped and went on to draft the Sexual Assault Survivors' Rights Act which was passed unanimously through the United States Assembly. We should applaud her - she also carried out experiments during the few short minutes she was in space.

Casdon

Why not? I bet it was an amazing experience, and her fare contributed to the cost of the mission. Good for her I say.

Do you really thing she paid, much more likely just a huge publicity event for those who run these tourist trips surely?!

SueDonim

imaround

I just ran across this article that is a really good read on this topic if anyone is interested. A good look at one side of the discussion.

www.huffpost.com/entry/blue-origin-backlash-feminism_l_68001a2ee4b0485a7732bcd7?d_id=8968068

That’s a very good article that expresses my POV. Thank you, I’maround.

As for ‘accomplished’ women - what does that even mean? If you haven’t been given/bought a ticket to ride, does that mean you’re unaccomplished?

Accomplished by education, work, talent in their chosen fields.

M0nica

Anniebach

MOnica you think those women were bought to satisfy the sexual desires of a wealthy man, your choice , your view on women , I do not share it . End of

Of course I didn't. It sufficient just to show his pulling power to be able to collecct those women, dress them in suitably designed suits, some or all paying for themselves - and then stand back and say - no he didn't need to say, - Let the publicity do it for him.

I think I am just amused that anyone could think that pulling a silly stunt like this says or does anything for him, but then I am not Donald Trump, Elon Musk et al so do not know how they think.

Please define 'pulling power' - I'm unable to discern meaning.

Anniebach

MOnica you think those women were bought to satisfy the sexual desires of a wealthy man, your choice , your view on women , I do not share it . End of

Of course I didn't. It sufficient just to show his pulling power to be able to collecct those women, dress them in suitably designed suits, some or all paying for themselves - and then stand back and say - no he didn't need to say, - Let the publicity do it for him.

I think I am just amused that anyone could think that pulling a silly stunt like this says or does anything for him, but then I am not Donald Trump, Elon Musk et al so do not know how they think.

imaround

I just ran across this article that is a really good read on this topic if anyone is interested. A good look at one side of the discussion.

www.huffpost.com/entry/blue-origin-backlash-feminism_l_68001a2ee4b0485a7732bcd7?d_id=8968068

That’s a very good article that expresses my POV. Thank you, I’maround.

As for ‘accomplished’ women - what does that even mean? If you haven’t been given/bought a ticket to ride, does that mean you’re unaccomplished?

Anniebach

Thank you Norah yet still thought of as ‘easy lay’ by many

How did you come to that conclusion, Anniebach?

No-one has said that or anything like it.

Anniebach

MOnica you think those women were bought to satisfy the sexual desires of a wealthy man, your choice , your view on women , I do not share it . End of

No, the all woman 'crew' was merely publicity for Blue Origin.

Thank you Norah yet still thought of as ‘easy lay’ by many

Anniebach

Did they claim to be Astronauts?

Gayle King, yes she said she's an astronaut.
Katy Perry, yes. she said she's an astronaut.
Lauran Sanchez is a pilot.
Aisha Bowe, was a NASA rocket scientist.
Amanda Nguyen, worked on NASA shuttle.
Kerianne Flynn, a film producer.

Accomplished women.

MOnica you think those women were bought to satisfy the sexual desires of a wealthy man, your choice , your view on women , I do not share it . End of

imaround

I just ran across this article that is a really good read on this topic if anyone is interested. A good look at one side of the discussion.

www.huffpost.com/entry/blue-origin-backlash-feminism_l_68001a2ee4b0485a7732bcd7?d_id=8968068

Read it and agreed with it. Tokenism is exactly the word for this silly willy-waving project, all about how easily women can be manipulated by very rich men.

Quote imaround Thu 17-Apr-25 22:16:19
Gayle King did yes.

Thank you

I just ran across this article that is a really good read on this topic if anyone is interested. A good look at one side of the discussion.

www.huffpost.com/entry/blue-origin-backlash-feminism_l_68001a2ee4b0485a7732bcd7?d_id=8968068

Gayle King did yes.

Did they claim to be Astronauts?

imaround

May: One of the scientists on that flight is a Nobel Peace Prize Nominee who trained to become an astronaut until she was sexually assaulted. She then redirected her focus to changing laws for sexual assualt victims in Congress, which she was successful at.

Both Katy Perry amd Gayle King have worked very hard and achieved great things and they should be proud. This is not that.

If they had done it, said it was fun and moved on, I don't think they would have had the push back they do right now.

The only history they made was being part of a group of rich women who paid for space tourism. Nothing wrong with that honestly. But don't try to be something you aren't, astronauts.

Agreed. Storm in a teacup.

Valid, they're not astronauts.

imaround

I've been thi king about this for days trying to figure out my feelings on it.

These 2 women are now saying they are astronauts. At the same time that Trumps team us removing actual female astronaut accomplishments from NASA websites.

It isn't so much that they did it and paid for it. It is because there were 2 actual aerospace engineers on that flight of celebrities and people are barely talking about them. With what is happening in the US right now, this feels like a "let them eat cake" moment at the same time #eattherich is trending.

They were literally space tourists who spent 11 minutes off of earth. That is all. Some people want too celebrate that, but I am seeing a lot more that don't. Both opinions are valid.

I am ready for them to go back to their out of touch rich lives and stop telling us how awesome they are for doing something that anyone with millions of dollars can pay for. We have bigger issues right now to deal with.

imaround
Exactly.

May: One of the scientists on that flight is a Nobel Peace Prize Nominee who trained to become an astronaut until she was sexually assaulted. She then redirected her focus to changing laws for sexual assualt victims in Congress, which she was successful at.

Both Katy Perry amd Gayle King have worked very hard and achieved great things and they should be proud. This is not that.

If they had done it, said it was fun and moved on, I don't think they would have had the push back they do right now.

The only history they made was being part of a group of rich women who paid for space tourism. Nothing wrong with that honestly. But don't try to be something you aren't, astronauts.

Did they tell because they were asked ? Did they start this thread ? I have no interest in them, knew nothing of them until
I read this thread. What has their figure , hair, who they had once been married to have any thing to do with their few minutes in space ?

imaround

I've been thi king about this for days trying to figure out my feelings on it.

These 2 women are now saying they are astronauts. At the same time that Trumps team us removing actual female astronaut accomplishments from NASA websites.

It isn't so much that they did it and paid for it. It is because there were 2 actual aerospace engineers on that flight of celebrities and people are barely talking about them. With what is happening in the US right now, this feels like a "let them eat cake" moment at the same time #eattherich is trending.

They were literally space tourists who spent 11 minutes off of earth. That is all. Some people want too celebrate that, but I am seeing a lot more that don't. Both opinions are valid.

I am ready for them to go back to their out of touch rich lives and stop telling us how awesome they are for doing something that anyone with millions of dollars can pay for. We have bigger issues right now to deal with.

That pretty much sums up my thoughts on it; I’ve been chewing it over in my head since it happened, too.

I've been thi king about this for days trying to figure out my feelings on it.

These 2 women are now saying they are astronauts. At the same time that Trumps team us removing actual female astronaut accomplishments from NASA websites.

It isn't so much that they did it and paid for it. It is because there were 2 actual aerospace engineers on that flight of celebrities and people are barely talking about them. With what is happening in the US right now, this feels like a "let them eat cake" moment at the same time #eattherich is trending.

They were literally space tourists who spent 11 minutes off of earth. That is all. Some people want too celebrate that, but I am seeing a lot more that don't. Both opinions are valid.

I am ready for them to go back to their out of touch rich lives and stop telling us how awesome they are for doing something that anyone with millions of dollars can pay for. We have bigger issues right now to deal with.