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ā€œStarmer to rent homes for migrants." No, no. The taxpayer is renting them!

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 09:26:07

He’s asking landlords to house migrants and giving them a 5 year guarantee of income. So, putting them (in the north probably as we’re a bit cheaper up here) in the middle of communities. Lads we know nothing about. What could possibly go wrong? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

I’m not sure this is the answer to the migration problem we have. What do you think?

Freya5 Sat 26-Apr-25 14:00:57

Whitewavemark2

Here comes the we hate migrants thread again. Hasn’t been talked/hated about for at least 10secs.

Here we go, being called names because we do not like what is happening here.

JenniferEccles Sat 26-Apr-25 13:51:47

What could possibly go wrong indeed.

Until we have an effective deterrent the boats will keep coming.
I’m sure the Rwanda plan wasn’t ideal but at least the Conservatives were on the right lines, and it had started to produce results with a number of the young males turning up in Ireland to avoid being sent to Rwanda.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 13:48:33

🤣

Mollygo Sat 26-Apr-25 13:44:02

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well let’s address the real issue itself….
Our borders are not secure and it’s costing the country billions £££s a year .

No! Don't do that FGT. That’s expressing hatred!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 13:15:29

Well let’s address the real issue itself….
Our borders are not secure and it’s costing the country billions £££s a year .

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 13:03:52

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Oh come on Wyllow we all read articles on Care4Calais and how they coach prospective ā€˜irregular migrants’ on what to say on arrival at Dover!

Let’s not all be as green as we’re cabbage looking!

We were focussing on housing provision when I alluded to charities. You have again cherry picked one organisation and at that only on one accusation of what they do.

so people can review and make own minds up there are many charities locally working on support of various kinds particularly once accepted into UK here are details. I've included Care4Calais so readers can see the breadth of their work.

Care for Calais

care4calais.org

Red Cross which is the main organisation in the UK in this field

www.redcross.org.uk/get-help/get-help-as-a-refugee

Example of a local organisation (Manchester)

mrsn.org.uk/aims/

Similar all over the country.

petra Sat 26-Apr-25 13:00:31

Wyllow3

This is what SERCO says it does
www.serco.com/uk/sector-expertise/immigration/asylum-accommodation-support-services

If they run this scheme as badly as they operate the tagging scheme I dread to think where it will end.

www.google.com/search?q=dispatches+%2B+the+tagging+scandel&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:435b3d26,vid:mY0aBwELdvU,st:0

Fartooold Sat 26-Apr-25 12:57:19

Once again FGT why are you so heartless, these are human beings but for the grace of ā€œgodā€ it could be us.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 12:40:24

Oh come on Wyllow we all read articles on Care4Calais and how they coach prospective ā€˜irregular migrants’ on what to say on arrival at Dover!

Let’s not all be as green as we’re cabbage looking!

sundowngirl Sat 26-Apr-25 12:39:38

Yet again we are labeled as 'racist' if we show concern over the influx of undocumented arrivals on our shores.

Are you only allowed to comment on here if you are in favour of Starmer and agree with his stance on housing these majority of young men over our own homeless?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 12:36:16

There is, after 27 years of this nonsense, only one logical conclusion.
Our government(s) actually want them here.

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 12:36:00

It's not this causing the closure of care homes! Internal pressures do this. Please don't exaggerate to try and make political capital.
They buy up vacant ones.

The SERCO issue is complicated, because they supply the back up and support services for those they house, and local councils don't have the money to do this unless funded. But making the profits out of them for shareholders is rather gross.

I'm not sure why you object to charities FGT running "not for profit schemes" - any money made goes back into supporting refugees for example once they get processed into settling and jobs and so on which is surely what we all want.

Skydancer Sat 26-Apr-25 12:32:12

LizzieDrip

Oh the irony of this OP starting, yet another, ā€˜let’s hate asylum seekers’ post at the very same time as the funeral of Pope Francis.

May the peace of human kindness be in your heart OP.

This is nothing to do with hatred. Can anyone explain how this small island can take in wave after wave of people of whom we know virtually nothing year after year after year? When do we finally say enough is enough?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 12:20:10

www.serco.com/uk/sites/serco%2Daasc/landlords

Includes ā€˜considering all types of homes’ including student accommodation and ā€˜former’ care homes! There is already a shortage of student accommodation for starters. Suddenly care homes will become ā€˜former’ care homes perhaps?? This is twisted and making all of the issues we face as a country a heck of a lot worse!

Mollygo Sat 26-Apr-25 12:04:42

FriedGreenTomatoes2

^These big firms like SERCO are making a huge profit and controversy around using them versus funding local authorities.^

Exactly Wyllow.
Some folk are making huge fortunes out of all this. Charities too. I don’t think there’s a real will (from Labour nor Tory before them) to call time on any of this.

True.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 12:02:55

These big firms like SERCO are making a huge profit and controversy around using them versus funding local authorities.

Exactly Wyllow.
Some folk are making huge fortunes out of all this. Charities too. I don’t think there’s a real will (from Labour nor Tory before them) to call time on any of this.

Cossy Sat 26-Apr-25 12:01:33

LizzieDrip

Oh the irony of this OP starting, yet another, ā€˜let’s hate asylum seekers’ post at the very same time as the funeral of Pope Francis.

May the peace of human kindness be in your heart OP.

🩷🩷

Iam64 Sat 26-Apr-25 12:01:18

The housing crisis is the fault of previous governments. It’s long been known we need more affordable and social housing. Thatcher was wrong to sell council housing and doubly wrong to stop councils using the money to build more
Recently in my town, the charity that feeds the needy, the homeless in my town centre were approached by a couple with six children, homeless, hungry and cold. Police and council emergency staff sorted their accommodation for the night

Cossy Sat 26-Apr-25 12:00:29

rafichagran

Thankyou FGT for clarifying but the word used in the post was migrants, there are alot of migrants who live here legally, have the paperwork and contribute to this country.
I worked in a job where people needed help, when things went wrong for them the first people they blamed was the immigrants. One said to my partner that"he came over here and took their jobs" when challenged and asked if he would like to do his jobs the reply was " I can't read and write, could not be bothered ar School" this was my partners reality.
I make no apology for saying people have a racist agenda, yes it is concern, for themselves only and not the bigger picture.

Well said!

Cossy Sat 26-Apr-25 11:59:34

Whitewavemark2

Here comes the we hate migrants thread again. Hasn’t been talked/hated about for at least 10secs.

šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ It’s becoming sooooo boring now! Migrate bashing, Starmer bashing šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„

escaped Sat 26-Apr-25 11:54:29

Wyllow3

karmalady

escaped

Is that 5 years with the same tenant? 😲
He can't have much faith in his "processing" system then.

multiple occupants I should think

No, its a 5 years deal for the landlord not occupants.

šŸ‘

rafichagran Sat 26-Apr-25 11:46:37

Thankyou FGT for clarifying but the word used in the post was migrants, there are alot of migrants who live here legally, have the paperwork and contribute to this country.
I worked in a job where people needed help, when things went wrong for them the first people they blamed was the immigrants. One said to my partner that"he came over here and took their jobs" when challenged and asked if he would like to do his jobs the reply was " I can't read and write, could not be bothered ar School" this was my partners reality.
I make no apology for saying people have a racist agenda, yes it is concern, for themselves only and not the bigger picture.

Mollygo Sat 26-Apr-25 11:46:26

Iam64
We need to rapidly move to allowing asylum seekers to work.

Yes, agreed, and without them being obliged to work in the ā€˜cash in hand economy’.

And it is a housing crisis issue, no matter whether you see it as hatred or not, or on whichever government you blame it.

If you’re part of that crisis, anyone who might move you ā€œfurther down the ladderā€ or be getting a helping hand that you don’t get, is likely to feel aggrieved.

If you’re safely ensconced in your own home, maybe the you should not comment, but as we’ve seen on many GN threads, everyone
knows someone
or has a family member
or a close friend or neighbour or colleague
who is affected by whatever the subject is.

LizzieDrip Sat 26-Apr-25 11:30:22

Whitewavemark2

It isn’t bile on the government it is the bile of ā€œotheringā€ - we see it in Trump’s America , in the Farage riots and in Le Pen’s rhetoric.

This isn’t about the very real issue of a housing crises, it is about false equivalence, and blaming a group of people who have nothing on this earth rather than the decades of government policies.

This is about hate, and spreading the hateful message.

Hear, hear WW2 šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Apr-25 11:27:38

It isn’t bile on the government it is the bile of ā€œotheringā€ - we see it in Trump’s America , in the Farage riots and in Le Pen’s rhetoric.

This isn’t about the very real issue of a housing crises, it is about false equivalence, and blaming a group of people who have nothing on this earth rather than the decades of government policies.

This is about hate, and spreading the hateful message.