“Starmer to rent homes for migrants." No, no. The taxpayer is renting them!

Iam64

Stopping the boats has always seemed an impossible task. We aren’t the only country in Europe trying to deal with the endless supply of desperate people seeking sanctuary or even a better life. If there were solutions I’m sure France, Germany. Greece, Italy, Denmark etc etc would have found them.
Sorry for appearing negative but I’m being realistic.
It needs international solutions and ‘smashing the gangs” has to be attempted. It’s such a lucrative trade by unscrupulous people, I wish I - or preferably various governments had answers.
I know our public services and housing are overwhelmed. The reality is the majority applying are given settled status. Being angry and anxious won’t change it. Trumps tariffs won’t help either
We need to put significant resources into processing and deporting . I’d like to see the criminal justice system more inclined to deport criminals, especially those convicted of violence and sexual offences. The human rights of the honest population should top those of violent offenders.
Also tighten up the nonsense of organised crime applying for student loans illegally, get onto fraudsters exploiting our benefits system,

I've re quoted this as I think it does lay out the situation without getting in accusations

I dont think anyone who has posted whatever their POV sees current levels of economic migration as sustainable.

......as opposed to legal immigration, of people we need to work here, who do of course have to live somewhere

..and as opposed to genuine asylum seekers.

But equally no one has come up with a viable total magic plan of tackling it, as Iam said, its happening all over Europe.

I think she's said the "best we can do".

Primrose53

Teazel2

Oreo

LizzieDrip

Allira you don’t like posters calling out the hatred & heartlessness that we perceive in others, but it’s okay for you to accuse us of ‘virtue signalling’?

That’s cos it is virtue signalling.It’s a look at me, I’m all heart and you’re not kinda thing.😇
It’s a huge problem and as Allira and others point out there are so many families already in B&B accommodation and sub standard rooms waiting for a decent house or flat without further reducing the rental housing stock.

Words like hate, heartlessness and racist are used regularly by lefties, to try to make those of us who are concerned about illegal immigration feel ashamed.

Teazel2 don’t let it worry you. You know in your heart who and what you are. Never feel ashamed of how you feel.
They just like to polish their halos in their spare rooms where they could be accommodating migrants. 🤣

Thank you 💐

Terribull it used to be the case that people put their names down on a waiting list for council housing in their local area. Until fairly recent years our own council gave priority to local people which I think is fair enough. Now anybody in the country can bid on a property wherever they like. These are often not successful because “locals” don’t think it’s fair and sometimes they are moved around because they cause so much trouble in other neighbourhoods they have to put them somewhere!

Then waiting lists were done away with and properties were advertised and you could “bid” on them. No money involved by the way. You just said you were interested. Priority (extra points) was given to certain groups like the disabled, people already overcrowded, people fleeing abusive relationships etc. the more points you had the better your chance of getting housed.

It should never be the case that people from other countries take priority over people born in our country.

Well explained, TerriBull!

Excellent post, thank you TerriBull

Allira

Another thread where posters are virtue signalling and calling anyone who points out the realities for many families in Britain today heartless, whilst at the same time putting their heads in the sand and ignoring the plight of desperate families who have been waiting months or even years for decent accommodation, a place to bring up their children in clean, safe housing.

and with that in mind we've had something in the order of 5 million legal net migration, since the early noughties, that was bound to affect our limited housing stock, which never met the needs of the population before, depending on where one lived. It's not just here it's a problem for most places in the developed world. That monumental step our generation had of getting their foot on the first rung of the housing ladder has become almost impossible for young people now. Similarly to be on a housing list to never reach the top, and to read that you're being passed over is of course going to fan the flames of discontent. Is it ok to leave our own citizens in such dire straits I wonder??? where's the empathy for them. To bring up such a subject is not unreasonable, it doesn't mean that we know and appreciate that there are those who are genuine asylum seekers that need to be helped, but the thrust of this argument is about side stepping over people who have been on a waiting list for a long, long time and desperately need a home. The pejorative "hate" attachments and the similar from those who don't provide any answers as how to allocate the limited supply of housing fairly is the first line of defence. The word bigot comes to mind, because whilst they may consider those who bring up this argument to carry that label, to others they are the bigots and to boot have an unswerving belief they alone whilst never personally affected have an intrinsic understanding in this instance which happens to be housing, and how that should be allocated.

Wish he would get my grandson one, who despite working full time cant find a reasonable place to rent.

We have sold our much loved home in a Northern City because of this reason.

Unfortunately it’s the poorer parts of the country where accommodation is cheap that suffer the most.

The landlords don’t care they put profit before people.

We are very relieved to have sold.

Iam64

Stopping the boats has always seemed an impossible task. We aren’t the only country in Europe trying to deal with the endless supply of desperate people seeking sanctuary or even a better life. If there were solutions I’m sure France, Germany. Greece, Italy, Denmark etc etc would have found them.
Sorry for appearing negative but I’m being realistic.
It needs international solutions and ‘smashing the gangs” has to be attempted. It’s such a lucrative trade by unscrupulous people, I wish I - or preferably various governments had answers.
I know our public services and housing are overwhelmed. The reality is the majority applying are given settled status. Being angry and anxious won’t change it. Trumps tariffs won’t help either
We need to put significant resources into processing and deporting . I’d like to see the criminal justice system more inclined to deport criminals, especially those convicted of violence and sexual offences. The human rights of the honest population should top those of violent offenders.
Also tighten up the nonsense of organised crime applying for student loans illegally, get onto fraudsters exploiting our benefits system,

A very thoughtful and honest response.

Churchview
The only reports of this I can find are in the Telegraph, Daily Mail and GB News hmm

You need to broaden your reading matter; it was published in The i Paper yesterday.

Here comes the we hate migrants thread again. Hasn’t been talked/hated about for at least 10secs.

Is this whitewave speak for "stop discussing immigration, even when it's a topical new story, because it's racist, because I say so"?

I agree we, like every other European country is struggling to find solutions to the tide of humanity seeking refuge in our countries.
On that note, I’m not off to polish my halo in one of my many spare rooms. It’s become impossible to discuss this topic

Whitewavemark2

Here comes the we hate migrants thread again. Hasn’t been talked/hated about for at least 10secs.

I was just about to write along those lines Whitewave.

Also, how FGT can complain about any headlines when we have seen the ones that person uses, is beyond me.

Teazel2

Oreo

LizzieDrip

Allira you don’t like posters calling out the hatred & heartlessness that we perceive in others, but it’s okay for you to accuse us of ‘virtue signalling’?

That’s cos it is virtue signalling.It’s a look at me, I’m all heart and you’re not kinda thing.😇
It’s a huge problem and as Allira and others point out there are so many families already in B&B accommodation and sub standard rooms waiting for a decent house or flat without further reducing the rental housing stock.

Words like hate, heartlessness and racist are used regularly by lefties, to try to make those of us who are concerned about illegal immigration feel ashamed.

Teazel2 don’t let it worry you. You know in your heart who and what you are. Never feel ashamed of how you feel.
They just like to polish their halos in their spare rooms where they could be accommodating migrants. 🤣

Churchview

The only reports of this I can find are in the Telegraph, Daily Mail and GB News

I heard it mentioned on the radio yesterday.

Oreo

LizzieDrip

Allira you don’t like posters calling out the hatred & heartlessness that we perceive in others, but it’s okay for you to accuse us of ‘virtue signalling’?

That’s cos it is virtue signalling.It’s a look at me, I’m all heart and you’re not kinda thing.😇
It’s a huge problem and as Allira and others point out there are so many families already in B&B accommodation and sub standard rooms waiting for a decent house or flat without further reducing the rental housing stock.

Words like hate, heartlessness and racist are used regularly by lefties, to try to make those of us who are concerned about illegal immigration feel ashamed.

LizzieDrip

Allira you don’t like posters calling out the hatred & heartlessness that we perceive in others, but it’s okay for you to accuse us of ‘virtue signalling’?

That’s cos it is virtue signalling.It’s a look at me, I’m all heart and you’re not kinda thing.😇
It’s a huge problem and as Allira and others point out there are so many families already in B&B accommodation and sub standard rooms waiting for a decent house or flat without further reducing the rental housing stock.

Correct Maw of course.

Actually it's the tenants who are renting them, the landlords let them.

But but but … we keep getting told “there’s no such thing as illegal migration”!

It’s hard to keep up.

Also Allira the original post said Migration it did not mention illegal migration.

Not a non-sequitur. This was posted in the original post. Also the word migrants were used, migrants who are legal do have a right like everyone else to have somewhere to live.

Allira you don’t like posters calling out the hatred & heartlessness that we perceive in others, but it’s okay for you to accuse us of ‘virtue signalling’?

rafichagran

I have misinterpreted no arguments the original post stated and I quote "Lads we know nothing about. What could possibly go wrong?"🤷‍♀️
Why pick on migrant lads, our home grown louts did not do us proud when they rioted after Southport.
The language used was inflammatory.

I meant to quote your post, sorry, rafichagran

Again, that is another non-sequitur.

sundowngirl

Yet again we are labeled as 'racist' if we show concern over the influx of undocumented arrivals on our shores.

Are you only allowed to comment on here if you are in favour of Starmer and agree with his stance on housing these majority of young men over our own homeless?

Yes, which is why I seldom comment.