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Reform UK is after donations from international oil and gas executives

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Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 11:02:43

Plus, he is arguing we should accept chlorinated chicken from the US as part of trade deals.

“Nick Candy, the party’s treasurer, told the FT that the party is also looking to raise funds from British expatriates who can donate in their own name as well as rich foreigners with UK businesses.”

“Reform UK, which has repeatedly questioned climate science, is soliciting donations from oil and gas executives as it bids to shore up its finances.

The Financial Times has revealed that Nigel Farage’s party is seeking to secure donations from the fossil fuel industry. The paper also reports that Reform is ‘launching a drive to raise funds from wealthy offshore donors in low-tax jurisdictions including Monaco, the United Arab Emirates and Switzerland, taking advantage of Britain’s loose funding rules to bolster its coffers’.

In addition,


Nigel Farage supports allowing US chlorinated chicken into UK as part of trade deal”

leftfootforward.org/2025/04/nigel-farage-supports-allowing-us-chlorinated-chicken-into-uk-as-part-of-trade-deal/

I must admit that I've lost a sense of "where they are at" altogether after splits and new parties and where policies are.
Although a lot of people will vote on an immigration platform, I see no solutions.

Wyllow3 Mon 28-Apr-25 23:56:17

Exhaustive research - the Taste the difference Ready Meals had Chicken from UK only, the ordinary ones had Thailand and UK.

Wyllow3 Mon 28-Apr-25 23:45:39

I'd certainly like to know the reality.

choughdancer Mon 28-Apr-25 19:55:41

still not sill!

choughdancer Mon 28-Apr-25 19:54:50

Wyllow3

Just had a look at a Sainsbury's ready meal which has chicken in it to see if they actually mention origins of food when it's processed into something mixed.

"Using chicken and pork from the UK". So guidance is there, whether its obligatory I dont know.

I think this labelling means that SOME of the chicken and pork comes from the UK, presumably because they want to cover up that they are using imported meats. This wording could mean a tiny proportion of it came from the UK, and it would sill be truthful. If it was 100% UK produce they would probably say so.

sundowngirl Mon 28-Apr-25 14:55:24

Wyllow3

I think Labour do know what people want - our local branch when knocking on doors say - housing, support from the NHS care services - good local council services, an answer to the many coming over in boats who aren't asylum seekers - but the difference is that Farage can promise what he wants, knowing he won't be asked to deliver it in government.

Which is what Labour did when they were in opposition but now they are in government they haven't a clue what to do it about it

MayBee70 Mon 28-Apr-25 12:25:49

Regarding misconceptions I don’t usually watch daytime tv but just watched a talk show with a phone in about the idea of allowing young Europeans to work here for a while. The pro Brexit person spoke about the problems that free movement caused in the building trade only to be told by the person who phoned in and was all for young Europeans coming here that he was actually a bricklayer and that free movement hadn’t caused any problems. Also that pay in the building hadn’t really gone up after Brexit but had gone up albeit only slightly recently because there weren’t enough people to do the work.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 28-Apr-25 09:31:15

There is much about Brexit that is b..ll..cks.

MaizieD Mon 28-Apr-25 09:15:32

love0c

My tap water absolutely stinks of chlorine. I have a filter for water or buy bottled. So the chicken uproar is silly.

It’s not the chlorine that is the problem. Chlorine is widely used in the UK as a disinfectant. It will not hurt you.

It is the reasonfor the chlorination of the chickens which is the problem. The reason US chicken is chlorinated is the atrociously low animal welfare standards under whivh they are produced. The chickens are rife with harmful bacteria. The chlorination is to make them ‘safe’ to eat by destroying the bacteria.

It’s highly ironic that those posters defending chlorinated chicken are often the ones who reassured Remain voters that Brexit wasn’t going to reduce the quality of the meat the UK imports because the UK had even higher standards than the EU which it would always apply to meat imports…
I always knew that was b*ll*cks……

love0c Mon 28-Apr-25 08:40:53

My tap water absolutely stinks of chlorine. I have a filter for water or buy bottled. So the chicken uproar is silly.

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 28-Apr-25 08:39:36

I'm not sure that Mr Farage has any real convictions. He is a master at tapping into what some people want to hear and promising them that he can do it all for them, with blithe disregard for any legal/ logistic/ funding issues. In this regard, he is, indeed, Trumplite.
He was in East Kent last week and was well received by folk who were telling him their problems. He was Very Interested in hearing these, and was planning to follow up these, apparently.
I wonder if his constituents have had the same access to, and commitment from this man, aka their Member of Parliament?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 28-Apr-25 03:37:35

Crace’s predictions are not so daft as first seen. Look st the Trump government.

Silverbrooks Mon 28-Apr-25 01:41:09

I’ve written before that even if Reform were to win a majority in 2029 they couldn’t govern because they couldn’t form a cabinet.

John Crace’s piece Nige doubling up, Dicky in No 11 and 30p Lee at foreign? Run for the hills!

www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/apr/24/nige-doubling-up-dicky-in-no-11-and-30p-lee-at-foreign-run-for-the-hills

Wyllow3 Mon 28-Apr-25 01:25:52

I think Labour do know what people want - our local branch when knocking on doors say - housing, support from the NHS care services - good local council services, an answer to the many coming over in boats who aren't asylum seekers - but the difference is that Farage can promise what he wants, knowing he won't be asked to deliver it in government.

nanna8 Mon 28-Apr-25 00:28:17

I don’t think Farage is far right. He is an opportunist and is keying into discontent with the current state of affairs with people who are doing it tough. That is why he is attracting people and if I were the Labour government I would look at people’s grievances, real or imagined ,and get in touch with what they want or at least show some sympathy. It ain’t rocket science.

Wyllow3 Sun 27-Apr-25 23:30:25

When we think of what is happening in the USA, it is. And other matters straight from the Trump /Section 25 handbook

The list of what Farage mentioned I gave above includes measures that Trump has taken, namely

*Scrapping all public and private sector DEI recruitment.

*Fighting back against the Civil Service and ‘apparatus of the state’ that opposes his immigration policies.

*Questioning the professionalism of doctors and GP practices for ‘over-diagnosing’ some mental health illnesses and SEND patients.

He cant actually say what he would do about deportations or slowing boat people arriving though, it remain vague.

However, I don't think the hearing him realise that you cannot deport people to a country without that country agreeing.

Crocus5 Sun 27-Apr-25 21:23:12

On Facebook which I don’t usually look at, Nigel Farage has a lot of support for his stance on deportations. It’s worrying.

MayBee70 Sun 27-Apr-25 15:49:42

I did try to find the main group of Reform people to tell them what I thought of them but, by the time we were leaving the’d dispersed amongst the crowd. The market was in a more working class part of the county; again something that they will be targeting.

MayBee70 Sun 27-Apr-25 15:46:58

There has been dangerous traffic calming put into the main route though a nearby village. There have been numerous accidents. It’s the Reform councillor that has promised to get them removed. I’m pretty sure they’re doing that all over the country, finding local issues that are annoying people and promising to solve them.

Wyllow3 Sun 27-Apr-25 14:36:49

Glad you posted that - I had a relevant email from Open Britain yesterday: it was addressing what Reform are saying/doing at local elections.

"Parties have been campaigning on important local issues, making bold commitments around service provision, social projects, and town planning.

However, if his most recent press conference is anything to go by - Nigel Farage and Reform UK are not too bothered by what’s at stake locally the platform was the local elections, but

"He was there to blow his favourite political dog-whistle - saying the White Cliffs may as well have a sign across it reading ‘everyone welcome’. Under Reform, however, Britain would ‘discriminate’ who we allow in, to ensure only ‘the right kind of people’ are welcomed here"

"Farage proceeded to discuss:
Britain leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (to be able to control the illegal immigration issue).

Proposals for a Minister for Deportations.

Fighting back against the Civil Service and ‘apparatus of the state’ that opposes his immigration policies.

Ending two tier policing, citing the imprisonment of rioters last summer as an example.

*Scrapping all public and private sector DEI recruitment.
The criminal record of some Palestinian asylum seekers*

He even questioned the professionalism of doctors and GP practices for ‘over-diagnosing’ some mental health illnesses and SEND patients

Farage was there to bang the drum for his far-right sensationalist agenda - that ultimately lives and dies with immigration.

Trumpian in his tone, Farage once again showed himself to be a one-trick populist pony again yesterday.

I can understand your annoyance Maybee!

MayBee70 Sun 27-Apr-25 13:37:08

We went to our favourite Sunday market today and came away appalled at the number of Reform representatives mingling with the crowd. I was chatting to someone about their dog ( as per usual) and my partner said ‘ I’ve got to go’ and moved away. I carried on chatting and realised one of the Reform people had sidled up to us and was chatting away to the man’s wife. Had I noticed I would have told him what I thought of his party. It left a very nasty taste in my mouth on what is usually a very pleasant mornings shopping expedition. angry.

Shinamae Sat 26-Apr-25 15:36:26

25Avalon

I don’t fancy chicken from Eastern Europe or Thailand either but it’s here especially in takeaways and some restaurants. At such times I become a vegetarian. I buy free range or organic from my local farm shop with proven creditation.

Supermarkets seem to take chicken from anywhere these days
I read a little while ago that even Red Tractor cannot be assured of quality of product. l bought some sliced chicken breast a couple of years ago from Tesco’s and it was from Thailand I was horrified and put it back..
I now always check the pack to see where the product has come from

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 15:25:55

Just had a look at a Sainsbury's ready meal which has chicken in it to see if they actually mention origins of food when it's processed into something mixed.

"Using chicken and pork from the UK". So guidance is there, whether its obligatory I dont know.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Apr-25 15:21:44

Reeves has indicated that our most important customers/suppliers is the EU.

I would be surprised if chlorinated chicken and hormone injected beef was allowed into the U.K.

We can get much healthier stuff from Europe whose standards are the highest in the world.

I will never feed that sort of crap to my family. In fact I get my meat from a West Country farmer. But I would always buy from the EU if pushed.

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 15:17:13

Well, on checking, somehow both, what a tangle

bylinetimes.com/2025/03/24/reform-uk-corporate-structure/

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 15:15:07

Cold

Is Reform still structured as a private business rather than a political party?

Yes.