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fancythat Thu 01-May-25 08:38:45

I cant see another thread about the subject.

Online newspaper headlines think Labour will suffer[normal for a Party in power] and Reform will do well.

We shall see of course.

Personally, I think Labour are underestimating the strength of feeling in the general public about immigration by boat. And about grooming gangs[white/non white, all of it].

As I was writing this, I think there is growing resentment about Net Zero too. People's energy bills are too high.

All of this has been discussed on this forum before of course.

But I think Labour may be about to see it all played out today.

fancythat Tue 06-May-25 08:10:39

Yes, you are right.
The Greens did well.

vegansrock Tue 06-May-25 05:19:47

The Green Party have more councillors and control more councils than Reform , yet who gets all the publicity??

fancythat Mon 05-May-25 23:10:34

fancythat

I am loathe to put too much identifiable info on social media.

But I will say this bit. For some reason, I have no idea why, there are no conservative and no labour canditates on our ballot form.
I wonder if it is to try and help liberal get elected?

I have been away for a long weekend.

To my surprise, Reform got elected!
I wouldnt have thought it was because of the immediate local area. This area has a history of voting Liberal.

Congratulations to Hellogirl1's grandson.

MayBee70 Sat 03-May-25 18:51:48

growstuff

MaizieD

Mollygo

MaizieD
Also, every voter got a personalised letter from Reform.
Not in our area they didn’t.
Greens, LibDem and Labour sent leaflets and one of those also sent a letter.

I think they were concentrating on the Red Wall areas. Especially ours, which went tory in 2019 and back to Labour last year.

Ironically, the county council has been filling in potholes for many months and we have a very low percentage of immigrants... It wasn't Labour controlled, either.

Ironically, some of the so-called red wall areas (especially the rural ones) have a low percentage of recent immigrants. The reason is obvious. Unemployment in many of these areas is high and immigrants want to work, so go to areas with high numbers of vacancies.

Also, and this was pointed out during the lead up to the referendum, people in areas with low immigration can be scared into thinking that their area would be much worse if they did have an influx of immigrants.

J52 Sat 03-May-25 18:47:20

Wyllow3

Thanks J52 - blame my source, which was from an analysis was carried out by Dr Hannah Bunting, who runs the University of Exeter’s Elections Centre!

(for others, this was about % of women candidates in Reform being very low compared with mainstream parties)

👍

growstuff Sat 03-May-25 18:38:13

MaizieD

Mollygo

MaizieD
Also, every voter got a personalised letter from Reform.
Not in our area they didn’t.
Greens, LibDem and Labour sent leaflets and one of those also sent a letter.

I think they were concentrating on the Red Wall areas. Especially ours, which went tory in 2019 and back to Labour last year.

Ironically, the county council has been filling in potholes for many months and we have a very low percentage of immigrants... It wasn't Labour controlled, either.

Ironically, some of the so-called red wall areas (especially the rural ones) have a low percentage of recent immigrants. The reason is obvious. Unemployment in many of these areas is high and immigrants want to work, so go to areas with high numbers of vacancies.

growstuff Sat 03-May-25 18:33:49

MaizieD

Allira

MaizieD

Another jumped on saying she was ‘gutted’ to have missed the chance to vote as she was an ‘avid’ voter, but sadly had no idea an election was happening as she doesn’t watch the News or listen to the radio!

Well, that's really weird. Presumably she never gets any post? Or if she does she doesn't read it. We had polling cards sent out well in advance with date and polling station details. Also, every voter got a personalised letter from Reform 😱

hmm

Perhaps there were no elections in her area! 😁

I have to say that that could be a distinct possibility, judging from some of the things I've read...

There weren't any elections in Essex - the powers that be decided it wasn't worth it because local government is being re-organised next year and there will be elections then. I understand it was the same in a number of other counties.

Wyllow3 Sat 03-May-25 18:20:52

Thanks J52 - blame my source, which was from an analysis was carried out by Dr Hannah Bunting, who runs the University of Exeter’s Elections Centre!

(for others, this was about % of women candidates in Reform being very low compared with mainstream parties)

J52 Sat 03-May-25 17:46:06

‘In Doncaster this is 15 per cent and in Leicester 11 per cent. Labour are nearly 50/50 in Cornwall and Doncaster, the Greens hitting that in Doncaster and very close in Nottinghamshire’

Actually it’s Leicestershire, it’s important to make the distinction as Leicester City Council is Labour controlled and there was no vote on Thursday.

MaizieD Sat 03-May-25 17:02:06

Mollygo

MaizieD
Also, every voter got a personalised letter from Reform.
Not in our area they didn’t.
Greens, LibDem and Labour sent leaflets and one of those also sent a letter.

I think they were concentrating on the Red Wall areas. Especially ours, which went tory in 2019 and back to Labour last year.

Ironically, the county council has been filling in potholes for many months and we have a very low percentage of immigrants... It wasn't Labour controlled, either.

MaizieD Sat 03-May-25 16:57:30

Allira

MaizieD

Another jumped on saying she was ‘gutted’ to have missed the chance to vote as she was an ‘avid’ voter, but sadly had no idea an election was happening as she doesn’t watch the News or listen to the radio!

Well, that's really weird. Presumably she never gets any post? Or if she does she doesn't read it. We had polling cards sent out well in advance with date and polling station details. Also, every voter got a personalised letter from Reform 😱

hmm

Perhaps there were no elections in her area! 😁

I have to say that that could be a distinct possibility, judging from some of the things I've read...

Allira Sat 03-May-25 15:12:20

MaizieD

^Another jumped on saying she was ‘gutted’ to have missed the chance to vote as she was an ‘avid’ voter, but sadly had no idea an election was happening as she doesn’t watch the News or listen to the radio!^

Well, that's really weird. Presumably she never gets any post? Or if she does she doesn't read it. We had polling cards sent out well in advance with date and polling station details. Also, every voter got a personalised letter from Reform 😱

hmm

Perhaps there were no elections in her area! 😁

Mollygo Sat 03-May-25 13:24:55

MaizieD
Also, every voter got a personalised letter from Reform.
Not in our area they didn’t.
Greens, LibDem and Labour sent leaflets and one of those also sent a letter.

Wyllow3 Sat 03-May-25 11:14:29

Kent will be interesting indeed! On the frontline for boats, campaigns run on boats, but it's not a council matter, expectations have been raised.

As DrWatson said above,
"When interviewed, the new Leader clearly hadn't the slightest idea what to implement, other than "looking at the Chief Exec's salary". That council spends over £2.5 BILLION per year, so finding an exec £20K or so cheaper isn't going to make much difference??

In terms of brand new councillors with no experience, I suppose there will be a difference between councils overwhelmed with "no experience" and those with remaining councillors from other parties who do know the ropes and understand relationships between the council and all the different functions they carry out -very very complex.

MaizieD Sat 03-May-25 11:11:45

Another jumped on saying she was ‘gutted’ to have missed the chance to vote as she was an ‘avid’ voter, but sadly had no idea an election was happening as she doesn’t watch the News or listen to the radio!

Well, that's really weird. Presumably she never gets any post? Or if she does she doesn't read it. We had polling cards sent out well in advance with date and polling station details. Also, every voter got a personalised letter from Reform 😱

hmm

Calendargirl Sat 03-May-25 09:53:40

As an aside, just seen on my local Facebook page someone bemoaning the low turnout.

Another jumped on saying she was ‘gutted’ to have missed the chance to vote as she was an ‘avid’ voter, but sadly had no idea an election was happening as she doesn’t watch the News or listen to the radio!

And another said she had absolutely no interest in politics.

Young people, the future.

confused

foxie48 Sat 03-May-25 09:39:12

He's earned approximately £250,000 in less than a year from foreign companies whilst the MP for Clacton. No doubt promoting Clacton to the wider world, or perhaps not!

growstuff Sat 03-May-25 08:49:54

He has Union Jack socks.

Maremia Sat 03-May-25 08:48:42

Mt61, so annoying isn't it, when the words go up before you get a chance to finish your post. You were about to give some examples of how Farage was more patriotic than Starmer.

growstuff Sat 03-May-25 08:41:31

Chocolatelovinggran

I live in Kent and a disproportionate expenditure of the council is the SEND budget, plus social care. This is largely historic- Kent coastal towns had special schools established here and people chose the seaside for their retirement.
Kent County Council has always been Conservative,since it's inception in 1974, so I wonder how much money the new Reform Group will find " wasted" on DEI initiatives?
It will be interesting to see how the ( largely untested) group manage the budget.
Did I read that there was talk of cutting the budget for children's transport to special schools? That might be a tough sell.

Every council spends the majority of its budget on social care, with education a close second. For a number of reasons, more children are now eligible for SEND provision (5% of the total) and it's bankrupting councils.

ifs.org.uk/publications/spending-special-educational-needs-england-something-has-change

growstuff Sat 03-May-25 08:38:22

Galaxy

Plans to cut SEND transport has been going on in my council for months, nothing to do with reform in that case.

Indeed! SEND transport is statutory up to the age of 16, but after that, parents have to pay, as they do for all sixth form transport.

However, from what Farage has been saying, he's looking to cut actual SEND provision, which he can't unless he's willing to break the law.

Galaxy Sat 03-May-25 08:34:38

Plans to cut SEND transport has been going on in my council for months, nothing to do with reform in that case.

foxie48 Sat 03-May-25 08:26:42

Our county council has Reform with the largest number of councillors but not an overall majority. Frankly this is a huge worry as all of them are completely new to the role. My local councillor has thankfully been re-elected, he's Green party, really knows and works for the local community and has been politically active for many years. Where have all these new people come from and what do they offer their local communities? Why have people voted for them? 66% of voters didn't even bother to vote I hope they don't regret their complete lack of interest in their local services.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 03-May-25 08:04:25

I live in Kent and a disproportionate expenditure of the council is the SEND budget, plus social care. This is largely historic- Kent coastal towns had special schools established here and people chose the seaside for their retirement.
Kent County Council has always been Conservative,since it's inception in 1974, so I wonder how much money the new Reform Group will find " wasted" on DEI initiatives?
It will be interesting to see how the ( largely untested) group manage the budget.
Did I read that there was talk of cutting the budget for children's transport to special schools? That might be a tough sell.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-May-25 07:54:23

Kent is the biggest county council in the country.

To place it in Reforms control, seems folly indeed.

But we shall see.