Is the Conservatory Party now an irrelevance?

It may well be. Not for one minute in my lifetime did I ever think that I would see the demise of the Tory party. The rot started with Cameron and that referendum. Far from nipping Farage in the bud, it set off a chain of events that have led to this pretty pass. Badenoch has been a poor choice as leader and I doubt that there will be enough time to restore the party's fortunes before the next general election. Meanwhile, let's see how Reform's doge approach to local government is received by the supporters.

Ilovecheese

It maybe depend on how Reform performs at local council level. How they manage the finances, what services they choose to cut or retain. If they drive a council to bankruptcy, they won't look like a good bet to run the country. If they manage to improve services, people will vote for them again and push the Conservatives further to the margins.

I agree.
Of course there’s plenty of time before the next GE and so much can change by then.

I hope not…

I first imagined tea and biscuits on a sunny afternoon when I saw your thread title Whitewavemark3, I think your autocorrect kicked in there!

I really hope the Tories aren’t doomed, but I think they have an uphill struggle to rebuild their credibility. I’ve always felt that they should have stuck with Sunak as their leader, for at least a couple of years, because I think he is capable and personally respected, but too late to save them from defeat by the time he became PM. Badenoch is not up to the role in my opinion.

Unless they sharpen up and start talking policies yes I think they are. Reform are not the answer either.

It maybe depend on how Reform performs at local council level. How they manage the finances, what services they choose to cut or retain. If they drive a council to bankruptcy, they won't look like a good bet to run the country. If they manage to improve services, people will vote for them again and push the Conservatives further to the margins.