Shock court ruling on Trump tariffs

There are two groups I noticed within “conservative” or Republican circles

“Never Trump Movement”
And
“Republicans Against Trump (on X)

But its hard to find out how big or influential they are atm, we perhaps need one of GN's posters to give us more idea?

The comments on that video are really worth a read, a lot say "Get a backbone", but then, they don't have to put up with the threats.

However, unless she uses her position in the Senate to vote......I imagine others face the same dilemmas and it will take a stronger wave of popular opinion to back them up?

Alaskan Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski talks about fear of speaking against Trump

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvheGKFIHYQ

When Mr Trump is crossed, he stamps his feet. My youngest grandchild does that, but will outgrow it, I'm sure, because he's only four years old.
The trouble is, in both cases, this behaviour sometimes results in an activity known as Shooting Yourself in the Foot.

Trump in tariff spite mode again..

Trump is now trying to bring big US companies to heel….using, yes, tariffs.

www.cnn.com/2025/06/02/business/trump-tariffs-apple-iphone-mattel-barbie

“Earlier this year, Trump was praising Apple CEO Tim Cook when the company announced plans for $500 billion in US investments.

Now its a 25% tariff threat- yes, an internal tariff

But when Cook later announced he intends to shift production of iPhones bound for the US market from China to India, he clearly angered Trump, who has promised — without much evidence — that his tariffs would lead companies to bring production to US plants from overseas factories.

Company-specific tariff threats will likely face legal problems, especially after a decision late Wednesday by the US Court of International Trade questioned the president’s authority to unilaterally impose tariffs without action by Congress — a decision that was put on hold by a Court of Appeals decision on Thursday.

Even without this week’s court decision, Trump would have had problems putting in place tariffs that target a specific company, said Lizbeth Levinson, a trade attorney at the law firm Fox Rothschild

“He doesn’t have the constitutional power to name names. It has to be a whole class of products, equally against everyone in industry,” she said. “But Trump’s modus operandi has always been to take the action and worry about reality later.”

It’s just pure spite, isnt it?

And will hither public..

““The president is obviously pretty upset with Apple and Tim Cook,” said Clark Packard, research fellow at the Cato Institute in an interview with CNN. “(But) I don’t envision a specific action against Apple. The American public would be outraged if their iPhones… became substantially more expensive, right? So he risks hurting a lot of everyday American who are also voters.”

DD worked there many years ago and said it was truly spectacular. We've never managed to visit but from postcards, photos and brochures it looked wild, unspoilt and beautiful.

That close! there will be controversy abut oil in Alaska, not just from the climate change perspective, but also its a "wilderness escape" for USA citizens of (often featured on TV) and drilling for oil and all it brings won't go down well with them.

"Habitat Loss and Fragmentation:
Drilling operations, including roads, infrastructure, and noise, can disrupt and fragment the fragile tundra ecosystem, impacting wildlife migration and denning patterns.
Oil Spills:
Oil spills are a major concern, as oil can coat fur and feathers, destroying insulation and causing harm to animals. Spills in waterways can also contaminate and kill marine life.
Pollution:
Drilling activities, including fracking, can lead to the contamination of ground and surface water, harming both wildlife and human populations."

Allira as regards the Alaskan Natives they are very against it.

( I remember the film "On deadly ground" starring Stephen Seagal (described as a "film so bad you'll love it) who stood up for alaskan Natives against the ruination of territory by big oil firms) - time to bring it out and dust it down...)

It's not very far from Russia (55 miles) but over 1,600 miles as the crow flies from the nearest point in the rest of the US.

Had to check up on my suspicions, that the history of Alaska and it becoming a State was very much tied up with the Cold War period

"Alaska officially became part of the United States on October 18, 1867, following its purchase from Russia.

However, it didn't become a state until January 3, 1959 ie Cold War period).

The purchase was part of a larger effort to expand the US and end Russian presence in North America.

Google says Canadians joke about it but don't want it.....

and drill baby drill as Alaska's a red state. Apparently they want Trump in control.

He also just approved to start (or re-start) drilling for oil up there. ..

Allira

varian

Perhaps Alaska should apply to become a province of Canada

I've always thought it should be!

To add to that, varian, Alaska used to be Russian and was sold by them to America.
Never mind the indigenous peoples who had lived there for thousands of years!

varian

Perhaps Alaska should apply to become a province of Canada

I've always thought it should be!

Perhaps Alaska should apply to become a province of Canada

ayse

I’d like to remind people that not long ago the Conservative government tried to prorogue Parliament. They were prevented I think, by the judiciary. Add this to all the dodgy dealings during the pandemic. I’m just thankful that moderates saw the dangers.

Mr Farage is cut from the same cloth as Donald Trump. He may cut taxes but he has already said we should move to a USA insurance based health system. Is this going to help us? The far right are always out there but large numbers of people don’t see it until late in the day.

I’m looking forward to the people of the USA taking back control but it could be a messy business. It’s watching another unfolding horror story. My thoughts are with all those USA citizens who just want their country back.

Thanks for this, ayse. You really underscored the purpose of why I shared that. This is exactly what it all boils down to. Sadly, I've got many more examples of this happening. Doing the weekly shopping is now an experiment in terror for many. What will it be this week? The erratic way things are being run, is really starting to show on the shelves in many shops. My son lives in Alaska and you can only imagine how hard they are about to be hit, depending so much upon our (previously) decent relationship with Canada. And I truly agree that "Taking back their country" is going to be a huge undertaking, and should be given much weight and attention. Thanks again.

The danger is of sleepwalking into extreme POV because they promise much when things feel tough - but what gets delivered are not just societies that have become dictatorships but because they've often come to power through pushing hatred and scaremongering of "others" we end up with a curtailment of all we hold dear.

I’d like to remind people that not long ago the Conservative government tried to prorogue Parliament. They were prevented I think, by the judiciary. Add this to all the dodgy dealings during the pandemic. I’m just thankful that moderates saw the dangers.

Mr Farage is cut from the same cloth as Donald Trump. He may cut taxes but he has already said we should move to a USA insurance based health system. Is this going to help us? The far right are always out there but large numbers of people don’t see it until late in the day.

I’m looking forward to the people of the USA taking back control but it could be a messy business. It’s watching another unfolding horror story. My thoughts are with all those USA citizens who just want their country back.

My darling mum has told me her prescription medication has gone from what was already a huge amount of approximately 200 USD, to just over 600 USD per month. That wipes out close to half of her "Social Security", her monthly amount she has paid into over her entire working life

In a way, this quiet little example tells us more than any amount of political posturing - and it's what will make a voting different, along with food and other key prices, small businesses, and big firms like Walmart going up against Trump. Everyday life experiences eventually come up against ideology.

correct - Guardian News online

Chazz01

Tune in to YouTube UK, there are too many posts even to start to list. Police state & judiciary directed from No 10 right across the real news, not the MSM, they disseminate whatever they are told

😂 MSM do what they're told by no 10.

That shows just how out of touch you are with our mainstream papers, the majority of which are owned by more right wing interests which never miss a chance to Starmer bash.

As for "UK" U tube, you can find POV right across the spectrum from both the UK and USA.

Because U tube algorithms are tailored to your own viewing history wherever you are.

So Chazz01 your U tube viewing, unless you enter a very specific set of parameters will be shaped by what you have already read, ie those confirming your POV

The only way round this is to enter possible sources that you might disagree with to get a full or wider view. that goes for those of us who disagree with you: for example I look at Fox News sometimes. You might consider looking at the Guardian New online, which is available in the USA.

Wyllow3

Ah, its not the Supreme Court.

"Federal judges can only be removed from office through the impeachment process. The House of Representatives initiates impeachment, and the Senate tries the impeachment"

Yes, and this is where and why t rump will not be held accountable. All roads lead here, to the House. And the House, is also stacked and, if you've ever had the pleasure of watching them in action, is a sight to behold. Absolutely bonkers and quite frankly, scary!

Tune in to YouTube UK, there are too many posts even to start to list. Police state & judiciary directed from No 10 right across the real news, not the MSM, they disseminate whatever they are told

That issue with prescription meds will affect so many people. Sorry your Mum is caught up in it, but it might be the thing to galvanise some effective push backs.
Going with positives, Pro-Trump candidates have lost some important elections around the world. Keeping my fingers crossed the same happens in Poland tomorrow.

No, I didn't see it Allira. I feel sad for the many Americans who have to put up with him and his crazy policies. The man wasn't fit to run a business let alone a country

Grandmabatty

It's shocking how he has turned the world against him and USA. Of course, not every country, but he's managed to unite Europe (mostly) and Canada has an enhanced reputation because of him. And all within six months. I can't think of many who take him seriously. He's made the role of the President a laughing stock throughout the world.

Did you watch HIGNFY last night?

Oh dear, Trump was shredded. The awards at the West Point Naval Academy plus other speeches etc.

Grandmabatty

It's shocking how he has turned the world against him and USA. Of course, not every country, but he's managed to unite Europe (mostly) and Canada has an enhanced reputation because of him. And all within six months. I can't think of many who take him seriously. He's made the role of the President a laughing stock throughout the world.

Very well stated, Grandmabatty.

Good Afternoon all,

Oh dear. I've been hearing about this. I read up on it and have come to the conclusion that this will be something of nothing, I'm afraid. I'll add that I am a dual citizen of the UK and US. I moved here in 2009, and this is my "home" in my heart and mind. However, I do keep in contact with my family there, of course. And I most certainly keep up on all aspects of trump. And that is correct, I'm not about to capitalise his name, as I do not believe he deserves that. True, I've got strong views.

Factually, others have already mentioned this, and they are correct-the Supreme Court has been previously "stacked" by trump, in order to ensure he can slip the nets if needed.

This is just slowing him down a bit. It will cause the stocks to move up and down, more uncertainty for the US and the rest of the World-players. However, in the end, I believe we will see that, indeed, trump will win his case.

I believe that will be true for most moves he makes. It won't be until "We the People" take control, that we will see any major changes to anything close to normalcy or even a balance of any kind.

Whilst it is very sad for me to see, I try very hard to dip in and out of the news as quickly and accurately as possible and move on to other things. Otherwise, I'm afraid I would be in knots all of the time.

My darling mum has told me her prescription medication has gone from what was already a huge amount of approximately 200 USD, to just over 600 USD per month. That wipes out close to half of her "Social Security", her monthly amount she has paid into over her entire working life.

Oh, big sigh here.

Many thanks for starting the thread!

-Miss Redd