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Zia Yusuf

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growstuff Thu 05-Jun-25 18:01:45

Zia Yusuf has resigned as chairman of Reform UK. I don't know enough about Reform's internal politics to comment, but I suspect some posters do.

eazybee Fri 06-Jun-25 09:02:47

Racism and xenophobia is the only thing they have

I do not support Reform in any shape or form, and it has been obvious for a long time that Farage is unable to work with anyone else. I believe there have been concerns about relations with Yusef for some time. But I am tired of the above accusations thrown at anyone who purports to support them.

Farage knew Sara Pochin would ask her question about the burka. How anyone in this country can support the wearing of the burka is beyond me. It is not a garment of choice, as silly Bev turner said yesterday, 'we can choose to wear a bikini or a burka'but a garment of repression, imposed by men, their fathers, husbands, brothers and sons on the women in their family. It is a primitive garment designed to conceal all trace of identity, hot, uncomfortable, the heavy material supported by a tight fitting metal contraption worn on the head causing headaches and neck strain, but most serious of all, it is a barrier to integration.
I wasn't aware until this issue was raised, that many European countries have banned the burka for some years. We should do the same. It is perfectly possible for women to dress modestly without wearing such a restrictive and isolating garment, and one imposed on women only.

keepingquiet Fri 06-Jun-25 09:12:34

Despite our personal opinions on what people should or shouldn't choose to wear in this country I also don't believe this is why Yusuf resigned. He himself said it isn't in his own interests to stay in Reform. That's because it is a company of people promoting their own individual interests and this will become more evident now they are acquiring more power and influence.
OP says she doesn't know much about Reforms internal politics and that's because they don't know themselves! There are no internal politics, just grifting pure and simple.
Reform had nothing to offer Yusuf anymore, so he left.
Nothing to do with what women wear on their heads.

growstuff Fri 06-Jun-25 09:12:57

I still don't really understand why most of the posts on social media are so negative towards Yusuf. There is even a poster with the username "SackYusuf".

growstuff Fri 06-Jun-25 09:15:13

keepingquiet

Despite our personal opinions on what people should or shouldn't choose to wear in this country I also don't believe this is why Yusuf resigned. He himself said it isn't in his own interests to stay in Reform. That's because it is a company of people promoting their own individual interests and this will become more evident now they are acquiring more power and influence.
OP says she doesn't know much about Reforms internal politics and that's because they don't know themselves! There are no internal politics, just grifting pure and simple.
Reform had nothing to offer Yusuf anymore, so he left.
Nothing to do with what women wear on their heads.

My impression is the same as yours - that it has nothing to do with burqas. That's why I've started a new thread on burqas.

lafergar Fri 06-Jun-25 09:21:32

What exactly do people find so threatening about a woman choosing to wear an outer garment when out and about shopping or doing the school run?

growstuff Fri 06-Jun-25 10:30:37

lafergar

What exactly do people find so threatening about a woman choosing to wear an outer garment when out and about shopping or doing the school run?

Do you have any opinion about Yusuf and Reform?

growstuff Fri 06-Jun-25 11:44:32

There seems to be a lot of support for reinstating Ben Habib and/or Rupert Lowe. Is that what's behind Yusuf's resignation? Is that what Reform voters want? If so, why?

Casdon Fri 06-Jun-25 11:54:31

Ben Habib is forming a new party isn’t he? There doesn’t appear to be much love lost between him and Nigel Farage.
What he said actually bears out what people have been saying on this thread.
www.lbc.co.uk/news/exclusive/coward-farage-introspective-reform-deputy/

Silverbrooks Fri 06-Jun-25 11:58:03

GB News:

Nigel Farage slams door on Rupert Lowe comeback after Zia Yusuf’s shock exit: 'I'd rather eat razor blades!'

growstuff Fri 06-Jun-25 12:19:25

Silverbrooks

GB News:

^Nigel Farage slams door on Rupert Lowe comeback after Zia Yusuf’s shock exit: 'I'd rather eat razor blades!' ^

Farage has always been cut-throat! wink

growstuff Fri 06-Jun-25 12:20:23

Casdon

Ben Habib is forming a new party isn’t he? There doesn’t appear to be much love lost between him and Nigel Farage.
What he said actually bears out what people have been saying on this thread.
www.lbc.co.uk/news/exclusive/coward-farage-introspective-reform-deputy/

"Rats in a sack" come to mind.

nanna8 Fri 06-Jun-25 12:39:52

What a press beat up. The bloke is very rich man who most likely got sick of giving up all his time to Reform. He wants his life back and who could blame him ? Reform has arisen at the wrong time, 4 years out from a possible change of government and why put in all that time when it is all pxxszing in the wind really ? He woke up and smelt the coffee.

Wyllow3 Fri 06-Jun-25 12:41:34

Silverbrooks

GB News:

^Nigel Farage slams door on Rupert Lowe comeback after Zia Yusuf’s shock exit: 'I'd rather eat razor blades!' ^

Blimey. Truth out on GB news of all places.

Wyllow3 Fri 06-Jun-25 12:42:55

What's the USA take on all this? Are we Important Enough....

nanna8 Fri 06-Jun-25 14:12:47

Doubt it… just another potential colony.

Casdon Fri 06-Jun-25 14:32:31

Wyllow3

What's the USA take on all this? Are we Important Enough....

I really think they have their own fish to fry at the moment, it’s all kicked off, fun for we flies on the wall to watch. I saw some are telling Trump to deport Musk now.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 06-Jun-25 14:40:25

I think that Lowe is probably too far right for even the Reform voters to stomach, and Farage knows this.

Lowe won’t be brought back in until Farage judges that he can get away with it.

Wyllow3 Fri 06-Jun-25 14:57:51

Casdon

Wyllow3

What's the USA take on all this? Are we Important Enough....

I really think they have their own fish to fry at the moment, it’s all kicked off, fun for we flies on the wall to watch. I saw some are telling Trump to deport Musk now.

😂

growstuff Fri 06-Jun-25 15:28:36

nanna8

What a press beat up. The bloke is very rich man who most likely got sick of giving up all his time to Reform. He wants his life back and who could blame him ? Reform has arisen at the wrong time, 4 years out from a possible change of government and why put in all that time when it is all pxxszing in the wind really ? He woke up and smelt the coffee.

Somehow I think there's more to it than that. I was hoping Reform voters, who presumably follow the party more closely than I do, might be able to enlighten me, but they seem strangely quiet.

growstuff Fri 06-Jun-25 15:29:33

Whitewavemark2

I think that Lowe is probably too far right for even the Reform voters to stomach, and Farage knows this.

Lowe won’t be brought back in until Farage judges that he can get away with it.

Lowe has many supporters on X (unless they're all trolls).

growstuff Fri 06-Jun-25 15:31:20

nanna8

What a press beat up. The bloke is very rich man who most likely got sick of giving up all his time to Reform. He wants his life back and who could blame him ? Reform has arisen at the wrong time, 4 years out from a possible change of government and why put in all that time when it is all pxxszing in the wind really ? He woke up and smelt the coffee.

It will take Reform at least four years to build the party infrastructure to be a serious contender to form a government. Farage seemed to think Yusuf was the man to do it - and he could have been right.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 06-Jun-25 16:28:23

growstuff

Whitewavemark2

I think that Lowe is probably too far right for even the Reform voters to stomach, and Farage knows this.

Lowe won’t be brought back in until Farage judges that he can get away with it.

Lowe has many supporters on X (unless they're all trolls).

Blimey

Grantanow Fri 06-Jun-25 17:46:46

If Reform were to form a government after the next GE none of their MPs (bar a very few defectors from the Tories) would have any Ministerial experience to bring to the job. I shudder to think what a mess they might make.

Oreo Fri 06-Jun-25 17:49:54

Wyllow3

Cossy

Well, personally, I’m glad and he’s sticking to his principles, he’s not “slating” Farage or Reform, just a quiet and dignified resignation, without assigning blame

Well, yes, he actually didn't agree with a burka ban, but its seems as if a lot of Reform supporters do 😡 more racism.
But this might have been a final trigger. Step up Pockin and even more far to the right?

It’s Pochin.
And it isn’t racist to want the liberation of women here in the UK from walking around in a thick black shroud.
However can women integrate into our society if they can’t even be seen?

growstuff Fri 06-Jun-25 17:56:40

Oreo

Wyllow3

Cossy

Well, personally, I’m glad and he’s sticking to his principles, he’s not “slating” Farage or Reform, just a quiet and dignified resignation, without assigning blame

Well, yes, he actually didn't agree with a burka ban, but its seems as if a lot of Reform supporters do 😡 more racism.
But this might have been a final trigger. Step up Pockin and even more far to the right?

It’s Pochin.
And it isn’t racist to want the liberation of women here in the UK from walking around in a thick black shroud.
However can women integrate into our society if they can’t even be seen?

Is it Reform policy? Why did she use a question at PMQs to ask about burqas? I doubt very much whether there are many women in her constituency who wear one or people who are directly affected by them. The percentage of non-white residents in Runcorn and Helsby is just over 2% - and that includes Indian Hindus, Chinese and men, who don't wear burqas.

PS. There's a separate thread about banning burqas. Do you know anything about Reform's internal squabbles?