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It looks like Trump now has his Stormtroopers (Stoßtruppen)

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PoliticsNerd Sat 07-Jun-25 16:16:49

Just watching what happened in down-town Los Angeles yesterday as ICE, ATF and others conducted raids against immigrants and others.

The Los Angeles citizens protested through the night against the military-style raises. In a statement from Kathryn Barger, a member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, she says:

I am aware of today's DHS ICE enforcement actions that took place in Los Angeles. At this time, my office is actively monitoring the situation. While I fully support the enforcement of our nation’s laws, I also believe it is essential that actions taken by federal agencies are conducted with transparency, fairness, and respect for the rights and dignity of all individuals. My priority remains the safety and well-being of all residents of Los Angeles County.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 13-Jun-25 06:37:08

A federal judge has blocked the Trump administration's deployment of California's National Guard to Los Angeles and called the move illegal.

Trump has lodged an appeal.

imaround Thu 12-Jun-25 06:31:18

Good article that lays out how Trump's team is illegally deporting people, and stalling when ordered to bring those wrongly deported people back.

Apparently a group of them are being held in a shopping container on a military base in Djibouti after a judge told them they can't send random people to South Sudan.

I saw a bunch were headed to Gitmo soon too.

www.lawdork.com/p/where-are-the-people-the-trump-administration

imaround Thu 12-Jun-25 05:42:46

I haven't seen the news yet tonight, but I did see this.

Reports from LA is that the protesters were peaceful and the federal agents escalated it the same way.

imaround Wed 11-Jun-25 22:14:35

In case you want to follow along at home this weekend.

The first map from the BBC has info on where the protests are currently.

The second map is from the 50501 group webpage. Those are the known and registered protests planned for Saturday.

Here is their website if you want to dig deeper. www.nokings.org/?SQF_SOURCE=50501

Last I saw there are over 1,800 protests schedule for Saturday around the country. The Alt-National groups have said they have 90,000 member attending around the country.

The ALT groups are current and former, anonymous, federal employees who are reporting from the inside and are the reason why federal agencies are giving current employees loyalty tests and polygraphs. You can learn more about how the ALT groups got started during trumps first term here: www.nokings.org/?SQF_SOURCE=50501

I highly recommend following the ALT-National Park Service on social media if you haven't if you want to follow along with the downfall of democracy in the US.

I remember a few months ago when people were asking why we weren't rising up and I kept saying it wasn't time. We weren't ready because not enough fickle Trump voters had been harmed yet by his policies. (we will never convince true MAGA that Trump is a bad man).

It is time. Enough voters have been harmed, even in red areas. People are seeing the excessive use of force happening and are mad about a stupid North Korean style military parade.

I pray that nothing bad happens this weekend to be honest. Hopefully it just distracts from his ego parade and makes him mad that people aren't bowing at his feet. We will see, it could go either way.

Also, you are going to hear that over 200 people were arrested in LA last night. They were arrested for breaking curfew. The actual charge is failure to disperse, a misdemeanor punishable by up to 6 months in jail and/or a fine of $1,000.

So nothing really. But I am sure the media will play this up as a huge thing.

imaround Wed 11-Jun-25 21:53:03

Heck yea! 7 Democrats and 3 Republicans made money off his market manipulation it appears by financial recordings. Anyone rich who has insider knowledge of what he was going to do made a lot of money during his market manipulation weekend. There is a reason why people in Congress go in with much less money then they leave with.

Nearly all politicians are the same aren't they? Sure, there are a few who really care and want to serve the public. But that is hard to find these days in my experience in the US. Money and power are powerful drugs.

AOC is trying to stop stock trading my Congress members, but they have to vote themselves to disallow it. You can imagine how fast that will happen. hmm

Maremia Wed 11-Jun-25 21:13:22

imaround, are both sides making money from him?

imaround Wed 11-Jun-25 17:28:15

Also, an example of why there is no political opposition. Because they are making money off of him.

www.cnn.com/2025/06/11/politics/congress-stock-market-trading-trump

imaround Wed 11-Jun-25 17:26:20

There is none. Which is why, if we have another election, they all need to go. Most opposition is coming from the State level, and that is complicated. There is a hearing in Thursday about the CA deployment. Ordinary people are calling for state to activate their guards first, but that isn't a viable solution either.

i haven't seen the list of 5 cities, i am guessing it will be in cities like Seattle, Chicago and New York?

I marked up a map of what things could look like.

The red zone is a militarized zone on the border and where National Guard troops are currently stationed.

The blue zone are MAGA states, they will help him themselves.

The purple dots are where I suspect he would send more troops to, but I can't predict what the 5th city would be. Probably Portland, they are a special type of protestors in that city. Northern CA is fairly red, so no need to go there.

I am no military strategist, but it does appear that he is surrounding us.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 11-Jun-25 16:57:58

imaround

Things are ticking up. Abbott in Texas has sent the national guard to San Antonio and Trump is now talking about activating them all over the country and sending them into cities.

Meanwhile in DC, millions are being spent moving military equipment in and Trump is threatening protesters.

Yes I read that he is moving troops to 5 major cities.

Where on earth is the political opposition?

imaround Wed 11-Jun-25 16:48:00

Things are ticking up. Abbott in Texas has sent the national guard to San Antonio and Trump is now talking about activating them all over the country and sending them into cities.

Meanwhile in DC, millions are being spent moving military equipment in and Trump is threatening protesters.

Dickens Wed 11-Jun-25 12:35:57

Oreo

In Trump’s case he has inherited some of his Father’s characteristics and acts on them but seems to me that he was afraid of his Father and is a better Dad himself within his own family.His insecurity and thin skin which make him take bad decisions are likely to have come from his upbringing. I think that Boris Johnson is very similar.
Not that it makes either of them right to be in the top position in politics! Far from it.

I think you've made a really good point Oreo.

Both Trump and Johnson appear to have (had in the case of Trump) 'domineering' fathers.

Trump certainly has a thin skin when challenged or held to account, Johnson handles it better.

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 11-Jun-25 12:23:37

I think that you are spot on with this analysis, Oreo.
Mr Johnson and Mr Trump, both raised by larger - than - life ( that's the polite version) fathers seem to crave attention and will go to any length to acquire it.
As you say, this makes them a poor choice for any job requiring a steady hand.

Oreo Wed 11-Jun-25 10:44:34

In Trump’s case he has inherited some of his Father’s characteristics and acts on them but seems to me that he was afraid of his Father and is a better Dad himself within his own family.His insecurity and thin skin which make him take bad decisions are likely to have come from his upbringing. I think that Boris Johnson is very similar.
Not that it makes either of them right to be in the top position in politics! Far from it.

Oreo Wed 11-Jun-25 10:37:43

imaround

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I feel like if you are raised by a racist millionaire, The chances of you turning into a racist millionaire is fairly high.

Another example - Elon Musk.

I’ve never believed that old ‘the apple never falls far from the tree’ saying as that would mean every criminal and murderer and generally awful person, or drunk, drug taker or cruel person , then raised children that had to follow in their footsteps.
There can be inherited characteristics but as often as not the child when an adult becomes the opposite of the Father.

Grandmabatty Wed 11-Jun-25 08:00:51

I wouldn't be in California for a pension right now. This will surely backfire on Trump, although he lies as easily as breathing.

imaround Wed 11-Jun-25 01:48:51

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I feel like if you are raised by a racist millionaire, The chances of you turning into a racist millionaire is fairly high.

Another example - Elon Musk.

Wyllow3 Wed 11-Jun-25 00:50:49

Blimey!

"Did you know that Woody Guthrie hated Trump? "Old Man Trump" were song lyrics written in 1954 but never recorded by American folk singer-songwriter Woody Guthrie.

This is the story of Woody Guthrie and his fight against the racist housing practices of Guthrie’s landlord, Fred Trump, the father of President Donald Trump

No wonder Trump is like he is

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOC9VxBWmaw

Wyllow3 Wed 11-Jun-25 00:44:24

So sad, listen to Woodie Guthrie sing "this land iis s my land, this land is your land, and look at wighat he's written on the guitar

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s

NotSpaghetti Wed 11-Jun-25 00:23:51

Wyllow3 well I expect lots of us have made other plans!

Not really surprising is it...

Wyllow3 Tue 10-Jun-25 22:53:00

US tourism dropping - high percentages.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC3ArCpwMNs

Wyllow3 Tue 10-Jun-25 22:49:42

One hour ago - "BREAKING: California announces NEW LEGAL ACTION against Trump" 15 mins but worth persisting.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQNxpJ0ESq8

Whitewavemark2 Tue 10-Jun-25 22:19:13

I do recommend listening to Trip - it’s a podcast and I know available in the USA - but for how long who knows!! I get a lot of information from there.

Wyllow3 Tue 10-Jun-25 22:08:04

Thank you. I have used your post with pix on another board I'm on, there is a lot of support here for you and a poster who also lives in the USA, she tends to have a more "at a distance" POV as she lives somewhere north USA very safe but solid on facts. there is also a hostile pro Trump/Reform bloke I'll never persuade but can counter his view..

imaround Tue 10-Jun-25 22:04:07

I will. I am keeping a low profile and watching. I don't want to end up in jail this weekend.

He isn't supposed to have this much power. That is why we have 3 equal branches of Government. Congress has given their power to him willingly and the courts have no enforcement mechanism.

I'm going to be honest, Trump is the reason why we have a 2nd Amendment and why Americans are not keen of giving up our guns.

Have you all seen the movie Civil War with Kirsten Dunst? It's coming here because Congress won't do anything and the courts can't do anything. It will be up to us eventually.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 10-Jun-25 22:03:51

I note that our little tinpot Trump who goes by the name of Faridge has declared that he fully supports Trumps actions.