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It looks like Trump now has his Stormtroopers (Stoßtruppen)

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PoliticsNerd Sat 07-Jun-25 16:16:49

Just watching what happened in down-town Los Angeles yesterday as ICE, ATF and others conducted raids against immigrants and others.

The Los Angeles citizens protested through the night against the military-style raises. In a statement from Kathryn Barger, a member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, she says:

I am aware of today's DHS ICE enforcement actions that took place in Los Angeles. At this time, my office is actively monitoring the situation. While I fully support the enforcement of our nation’s laws, I also believe it is essential that actions taken by federal agencies are conducted with transparency, fairness, and respect for the rights and dignity of all individuals. My priority remains the safety and well-being of all residents of Los Angeles County.

RosieandherMaw Mon 09-Jun-25 23:55:46

If this continues to escalate, he will declare Marshall Law, in LA at least, which suspends everyone's rights
Surely you mean Martial law which involves the substitution of military authority for civil rule usually in times of war, rebellion or natural disaster ( not to be confused with the Marshall Plan of 1948 which created reliable trading partners and supported the development of stable democratic governments in Western Europe)

imaround Mon 09-Jun-25 23:37:12

I should also point out that Congress can stop all of this at any time. The republicans, and some democrats, refuse to do their jobs. The rest of the Dems, other than a select few, are just as incompetent.

They all need to be voted out in 2026, no matter what is behind their name. If we can still vote.

imaround Mon 09-Jun-25 23:33:06

I understood Maremia's post to mean she hopes things don't escalate if more protests happen.

He wont run out of troops though. Here are the US military numbers as of 2023 I believe. He could send every single one of them to do domestic police work illegally. And if he runs out of those, I am sure there are still at least 50,000,000 Trump supporters who are armed who will fight for him.

Dire thought isn't it?

If this continues to escalate, he will declare Marshall Law, in LA at least, which suspends everyone's rights. I think that is his plan to be honest. Once he does that, he has unlimited power. Dictators going to dictate.

Claremont, interesting turn of events isn't it? He had the power to stop January 6th. They were begging him to call the National Guard. He refused. They were trying to find and hang the Vice President of the US to stop him from certifying an election. He still refused.

Delila Mon 09-Jun-25 23:32:06

Enjoy your trip imaround!

MaizieD Mon 09-Jun-25 22:15:46

Maremia

Worrying thought, and hope it doesn't happen, but what if there are more protests? Will Trump run out of troops to deploy? Is that possible?

Why is that worrying? Running out of troops could curb his despotism...

Or do you think that any protest should be suppressed by draconian methods?

Claremont Mon 09-Jun-25 21:26:54

How did we get to animal lovers with that title?

Here is Trump explaining a few years ago, why he was not able to 'interfere' with the criminal, violent and even deadly Capitol riots- he had to follow the Law!

fb.watch/A6-56HCU2o/

wow!

MayBee70 Mon 09-Jun-25 20:41:20

A place I’ve always wanted to go to is the pet cemetery in Paris; I do like cemeteries! Rin Tin Tin is buried there as is a horse called Troytown who won the Grand National but sadly died at Auteuil. I don’t think we have anything like it in the UK; even though we’re supposed to be a Nation of animal lovers I think the French take it to another level.

valdavi Mon 09-Jun-25 20:29:30

Have a wonderful time Imaround London & Paris are two unique cities, lots of history to discover, hope you can come back & visit other places too but those two are "must see".

PoliticsNerd Mon 09-Jun-25 20:20:20

What a lovely turn of thread. Have a wonderful time imaround and come back another time to visit Yorkshire (God's own county). If you love our history - which is the root of yours too - you would love York.

imaround Mon 09-Jun-25 19:49:58

I actually saw the d'Orsay in Paris when I was there in the late 80's. It would definitely be on my list! We are going into the Louvre this trip.

MayBee70 Mon 09-Jun-25 19:41:44

imaround

I am so excited, my first visit! Just a few days in London before a few days in Paris. I need to spend much, much more time there to truly see everything I would like to. I am actually an amateur UK Royal Family history buff so I could spend a long time visiting.

I would have given anything to visit this weekend for the Trooping, instead of next. smile

Thanks for the welcome!

Can I recommend the Musee d’Orsay in Paris. Someone told us about it prior to a weekend visit and it contained all of my favourite Impressionist paintings along with lots of other fascinating stuff.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Jun-25 19:40:57

Went there for a Christmas lunch last year, just before Christmas😊. It was beautifully decorated.

imaround Mon 09-Jun-25 19:38:31

My first visit would be to Hever Castle. I want to see her Book of Hours especially.

If I could spend my days jumping countries in Europe just to visit the museums it would be a dream come true as well. You all have such a long history compared to here and I love history, so I want to see everything.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Jun-25 19:23:39

Week after next we are in France😊, be like ships passing in the night!

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Jun-25 19:22:19

What are you hoping to visit?

imaround Mon 09-Jun-25 19:20:03

I am so excited, my first visit! Just a few days in London before a few days in Paris. I need to spend much, much more time there to truly see everything I would like to. I am actually an amateur UK Royal Family history buff so I could spend a long time visiting.

I would have given anything to visit this weekend for the Trooping, instead of next. smile

Thanks for the welcome!

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Jun-25 19:13:12

Maremia

Worrying thought, and hope it doesn't happen, but what if there are more protests? Will Trump run out of troops to deploy? Is that possible?

Well I think that each state has its own troops, so I guess there are plenty to go around.

Maremia Mon 09-Jun-25 19:09:40

Worrying thought, and hope it doesn't happen, but what if there are more protests? Will Trump run out of troops to deploy? Is that possible?

Oreo Mon 09-Jun-25 19:06:59

Ta imaround. Am having a very nice day indeed.

Maremia Mon 09-Jun-25 18:57:14

Hope your visit goes well.

Maremia Mon 09-Jun-25 18:56:36

Following due process. That's what should be done. Not troops on the streets.
Yes, it is 'terror tactics', and all of the comparisons with the rise of Hitler's dictatorship are terrifying because they are true.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Jun-25 18:49:31

Welcome in advance!

imaround Mon 09-Jun-25 18:44:04

Of course he is. They will start arresting all their opponents eventually. They have already arrested a judge and some other official in New Mexico.

He said he hopes Blue States cease to exist. I can't believe there are people out there who do not think this man is a dictator and support his policies and reign of terror.

The Army parade is Saturday. There are protests kicking off that day in every city. I really hope things die down and do not escalate this weekend. I am actually traveling to your shores next week and I want to be able to get out and home with no problems.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Jun-25 18:32:44

Trump calling for the arrest of Newsom. He’s giving democracy a real kicking.

imaround Mon 09-Jun-25 18:28:56

You may not jump to conclusions, but you refuse to see the truth too. It surprises me that you have such a strong opinion on something you are actually not very informed on.

You also seem OK with the government breaking the law and violating rights as long as it is the people you think it should happen to.

Here is the truth about how dangerous migrants are in the US.

"Immigrants in the United States commit crimes at lower rates than the U.S.-born population, notwithstanding the assertion by critics that immigration is linked to higher rates of criminal activity. This reality of reduced criminality, which holds across immigrant groups including unauthorized immigrants, has been demonstrated through research as well as findings for the one state in the United States—Texas—that tracks criminal arrests and convictions by immigration status.

A growing volume of research demonstrates that not only do immigrants commit fewer crimes, but they also do not raise crime rates in the U.S. communities where they settle. In fact, some studies indicate that immigration can lower criminal activity, especially violent crime, in places with inclusive policies and social environments where immigrant populations are well established."

www.migrationpolicy.org/content/immigrants-and-crime#:~:text=Lower%20Crime%20Rates%20in%20Communities,%E2%80%9Cnon%2Dsanctuary%E2%80%9D%20cities.

From actual data, from Texas no less.

These agents would be in more danger trying to arrest a white man in Texas than a mother in her car with her children in Massachusetts.

Have a nice day Oreo.