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It looks like Trump now has his Stormtroopers (Stoßtruppen)

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PoliticsNerd Sat 07-Jun-25 16:16:49

Just watching what happened in down-town Los Angeles yesterday as ICE, ATF and others conducted raids against immigrants and others.

The Los Angeles citizens protested through the night against the military-style raises. In a statement from Kathryn Barger, a member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, she says:

I am aware of today's DHS ICE enforcement actions that took place in Los Angeles. At this time, my office is actively monitoring the situation. While I fully support the enforcement of our nation’s laws, I also believe it is essential that actions taken by federal agencies are conducted with transparency, fairness, and respect for the rights and dignity of all individuals. My priority remains the safety and well-being of all residents of Los Angeles County.

Allira Sun 08-Jun-25 17:18:49

Native Americans wandered over from Asia and what is now Russia via a land bridge!

lafergar Sun 08-Jun-25 17:10:21

GrannyGravy13

Oreo

I don’t like the sound of masked men, is this actually true?
If it’s done properly I have no objections to migrants who are probably illegally there being taken off the streets to be questioned and perhaps deported.We deport people here in the UK.

We are abroad at the moment.

DH has just had a conversation with an American family on this very subject.

Their view is ^if anyone is in America illegally, then they should be removed pretty damn quick^

Great! Of course he has many fans.

Aren't people other than Native Americans there illegally?

Allira Sun 08-Jun-25 17:10:17

Boz

The real problem is not with the National Guard but rogue vigilante groups feeling justified in launching illegal campaigns against Hispanic people - they seem to be the main target

Trump has declared an Open Season

It's like the days of the Wild West.
Lawless!

Boz Sun 08-Jun-25 16:52:57

The real problem is not with the National Guard but rogue vigilante groups feeling justified in launching illegal campaigns against Hispanic people - they seem to be the main target

Trump has declared an Open Season

Allira Sun 08-Jun-25 16:45:55

MayBee70

Let’s not forget America has a president that has pardoned people that were imprisoned for their part in an insurrection in which people died. I wouldn’t put anything past him.

Oh, I'm not putting anything past him!

But that was the view of the two Americans in GrannyGravy's post.
One would assume from the wording that due process should be carried out, and, if found they are there illegally, they should be deported.

MayBee70 Sun 08-Jun-25 16:25:25

Let’s not forget America has a president that has pardoned people that were imprisoned for their part in an insurrection in which people died. I wouldn’t put anything past him.

Allira Sun 08-Jun-25 16:17:30

PoliticsNerd

GrannyGravy13

Oreo

I don’t like the sound of masked men, is this actually true?
If it’s done properly I have no objections to migrants who are probably illegally there being taken off the streets to be questioned and perhaps deported.We deport people here in the UK.

We are abroad at the moment.

DH has just had a conversation with an American family on this very subject.

Their view is ^if anyone is in America illegally, then they should be removed pretty damn quick^

So quickly that they are denied due process? That's a strange view of democracy.

So quickly that they are denied due process? That's a strange view of democracy.

Their view is if anyone is in America illegally, then they should be removed pretty damn quick

One would assume the word illegally means that due process has been carried out.

dotpocka Sun 08-Jun-25 15:46:06

told everybody he would start civil war

PoliticsNerd Sun 08-Jun-25 15:27:00

GrannyGravy13

Oreo

I don’t like the sound of masked men, is this actually true?
If it’s done properly I have no objections to migrants who are probably illegally there being taken off the streets to be questioned and perhaps deported.We deport people here in the UK.

We are abroad at the moment.

DH has just had a conversation with an American family on this very subject.

Their view is ^if anyone is in America illegally, then they should be removed pretty damn quick^

So quickly that they are denied due process? That's a strange view of democracy.

imaround Sun 08-Jun-25 15:18:56

I wonder what their views were on masked ICE agents swarming people in the streets, taking people without telling them who they are and why they were being taken, sent to a facility, not given due process, not receiving medical care or food, then being sent to an ultra-max prison in a country they have never stepped foot in.

They have picked up citizens and permanent legal residents AND people who they were told not to remove from the country to start with.

I am aghast that anyone, anywhere in the world, would be ok with the way this is being handled.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 08-Jun-25 15:01:03

Oreo

I don’t like the sound of masked men, is this actually true?
If it’s done properly I have no objections to migrants who are probably illegally there being taken off the streets to be questioned and perhaps deported.We deport people here in the UK.

We are abroad at the moment.

DH has just had a conversation with an American family on this very subject.

Their view is if anyone is in America illegally, then they should be removed pretty damn quick

imaround Sun 08-Jun-25 14:51:21

Do you really think I am making things up Oreo? Especially something so outrageous that could be so easily fact checked with a simple internet search?

www.cato.org/blog/ice-agents-seizing-people-now-routinely-wear-masks-thats-wrong

Oreo Sun 08-Jun-25 12:41:02

I don’t like the sound of masked men, is this actually true?
If it’s done properly I have no objections to migrants who are probably illegally there being taken off the streets to be questioned and perhaps deported.We deport people here in the UK.

Cossy Sun 08-Jun-25 12:13:33

imaround

Trump himself refused to call the national guard on Jan 6th. Of course, he has labeled that day a day of love and this an insurrection.

Some of the 1500 people he pardoned were hired by ICE to hunt down migrants and kidnap them off the street while wearing masks over their faces and refusing to identify themselves.

No one here really give 2 hoots what they are called by the way.

Good grief, that’s horrific and frightening!

Cossy Sun 08-Jun-25 12:12:47

windmill1

Maybe President Trump has been poring over some tin-pot biography on Sir Oswald Mosley and his tin-pot army of Blackshirts and has concluded: "I could do that."

It’s all disgusting!

Mosley was a disgraceful racist being and so is Trump!

Maremia Sun 08-Jun-25 12:07:10

Just wondering, after reading on online article describing the KKK resurgence in the 1920's. Are Maga folk from the same areas, families, heritage?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Jun-25 11:14:06

Proud boys

imaround Sun 08-Jun-25 11:07:37

Trump himself refused to call the national guard on Jan 6th. Of course, he has labeled that day a day of love and this an insurrection.

Some of the 1500 people he pardoned were hired by ICE to hunt down migrants and kidnap them off the street while wearing masks over their faces and refusing to identify themselves.

No one here really give 2 hoots what they are called by the way.

Ladyleftfieldlover Sun 08-Jun-25 10:26:55

Where were the National Guard on 6 January!? People died.

NotSpaghetti Sun 08-Jun-25 10:22:57

barely anyone in the US knew this was happening. Even people in other parts of California had no idea what was going on. Barely any news coverage.

Really?
I have seen loads of US news coverage!

Maremia Sun 08-Jun-25 10:21:19

DESPOTUS, good one. Not him! The nickname.

Allira Sun 08-Jun-25 10:01:55

AGAA4

I hear Trump is being called DESPOTUS.

Oh, excellent choice!

Allira Sun 08-Jun-25 10:01:14

PoliticsNerd

"Get over it"? Are you 14 RosieandherMaw?

I don't think most 14 year olds would know all that, to be fair!!

PoliticsNerd Sun 08-Jun-25 09:48:17

"Get over it"? Are you 14 RosieandherMaw?

lafergar Sun 08-Jun-25 09:45:29

Fun times.