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It looks like Trump now has his Stormtroopers (Stoßtruppen)

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PoliticsNerd Sat 07-Jun-25 16:16:49

Just watching what happened in down-town Los Angeles yesterday as ICE, ATF and others conducted raids against immigrants and others.

The Los Angeles citizens protested through the night against the military-style raises. In a statement from Kathryn Barger, a member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, she says:

I am aware of today's DHS ICE enforcement actions that took place in Los Angeles. At this time, my office is actively monitoring the situation. While I fully support the enforcement of our nation’s laws, I also believe it is essential that actions taken by federal agencies are conducted with transparency, fairness, and respect for the rights and dignity of all individuals. My priority remains the safety and well-being of all residents of Los Angeles County.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 06-Jul-25 20:03:50

I wouldn’t fancy going on holiday to the USA at the moment.

Black hats - black shirts 😮

imaround Sun 06-Jul-25 04:24:58

In a surprise to no one, they are just randomly grabbing Hispanic looking people off the streets now, without asking questions until they get them back to the detention center.

www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/entertainment/story/2025-07-02/centennial-park-ice-raid-santa-ana?utm_source=reddit.com

imaround Fri 04-Jul-25 22:32:21

Mentioning the hats. I noticed the last few he made seems to be black, not red.

MAGA are sometimes called Red Hats (a play off of the British Red Coats from the Revolution). They seem to be abandoning the red, for now at least. Well, those who are shamefully aware of what they caused anyhow. The rest of them like having an authoritarian dictator.

imaround Fri 04-Jul-25 18:47:20

Republicans spoke against against that bill, them voted for it. They are more scared of Trump et al. Then they are the voters. Until that changes, nothing will change.

This behavior will get worse as the ICE budget has been increased 13x what it was.

They are building camps in 8 days in public land seized for the purpose. Those camps are being built and ran by for-profit corporations. They won't stop the cash cow that is the federal government paying them billions to keep humans as a commodity.

Supreme Court and Congress are both complicit.

Maremia Fri 04-Jul-25 16:49:37

The Rebublicans are either too afraid or too greedy to defy Trump.
Musk is having a go, but that could fizzle out.
But, the Catholic Church has just criticised elements in the Bill.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 04-Jul-25 16:28:03

I think as far as I understand Trump has been over ruled in the birther issue.

But this week Trump has reigned supreme in almost everything he has done.

Let’s hope this is his zenith and it is all the way downhill from now, but I don’t hold out much hope.

I was reading about the level of corruption in which he is involved. Is there nothing or no one with any teeth?

Maremia Fri 04-Jul-25 14:57:02

So sad for all our our GNs over there.

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 04-Jul-25 14:33:07

Wyllow, I understand that baseball caps are for sale featuring the motto "Alligator Alcatraz": probably manufactured in China.
Just when you thought depths had been reached...

Wyllow3 Fri 04-Jul-25 13:53:32

Have you all seen this?

Its for real - the person I found it from quoted "This photo was posted on the official ‘X’ page of the US Department of Homeland Security

imaround Thu 03-Jul-25 20:08:24

His bill passed.

$165 Billion for ICE and massive increases for defense while taking away healthcare for millions.

100% Republicans did this to us. I hope they all get what they deserve.

imaround Thu 03-Jul-25 17:46:35

My holiday was lovely whitewave. Though the heat there in London about did me in. I almost ended up in A&E due to dehydration. I adored the National Gallery and even saw a last minute show!

Trump has done nothing but defy the Constitution and the law since January. And the Supreme Court just keeps giving him wins to do it.

Trump is starting to deport Naturalized Citizens and has already threatened Mamdani with deportation. He naturalized when he was 7 I believe.

No one is safe in the US right now. This spending bill give $165 billion to ICE and they are building detention "centers" to hold people. The corporations who are building them want people in them to make a profit, so when they are done with migrants and naturalized citizens, who do you think they will put there next?

Maremia Thu 03-Jul-25 09:55:49

And the fight back against the Big Bonkers Bill.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 03-Jul-25 09:51:45

How about Zohran Mamdani!!

How marvellous - gives us all hope

imaround Thu 03-Jul-25 01:09:43

I'll be back in a bit to respond to posts, but wanted to post this.

Warning, it is the court document that describes in detail the torture that Mr Garcia went through after being sent to EACOT.

Mr Garcia was never supposed to be removed from the United States in the first place, then was sent to a prison on El Salvador to be tortured. Trump's team refused to return him to the US for WEEKS, despite being ordered to do so by the courts multiple times.

Once he was returned the the US, he was arrested and charged with human trafficking. A trumped up charge that would allow them to deport him back to El Salvador.

storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.211.3.pdf

imaround Wed 02-Jul-25 13:45:43

All lines end at Peter Thiel IMO.

sassenach512 Wed 02-Jul-25 09:34:47

Do you think Trump will get away with ditching the Constitution and running for a third term imaround? How would he get around Obama going for a third too though?
Thank you for keeping us in the loop by the way, it's so scary what's happening to your country 😔

Maremia Wed 02-Jul-25 08:50:00

Stephen Miller is another.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Jul-25 08:42:28

Just back from holiday. How was yours iamaround

Now I have the gargantuan task of catching up!

What is it about Trump and Musk again?

Who are in Trumps inner circle? Because one man cannot possibly responsible for what is happening.

Bannon is one I think

Maremia Wed 02-Jul-25 08:37:23

Trump's behaviour is all over the media here. I follow some of the Democrat Politicians on Facebook. They put up a good fight, making them read through all of the bill so that later the Republicans can't claim, 'I didn't know what was in it'.
Great result in the New York Mayoral race.
Keep posting please You have many friends on here.

imaround Tue 01-Jul-25 23:30:05

*lost every guardrail

imaround Tue 01-Jul-25 23:29:42

NYC has been, for at least 20 years, pretty liberal. We got AOC out of Brooklyn I think. So I am not to surprised that he won the primary.

The Cuomo brothers are people who I wont say what I think about because I could get banned. I cant believe the ego of that guy to think the public would accept him back into politics. Chris (CNN) and Andrew (Governor of NY) and they were both fired for sexual misconduct. At least someone in this country will not accept a man who has sexual misconduct allegations against him.

Politics in the US is a pendulum. As I am sure it is in the UK as well. We will probably see a severe shift to the left in 2026, if we have elections, to counter the last 10 years shift to the far right.

Young MAGA men are, apparently, starting to figure out that they aren't getting what Trump promised them, and the women are not only not rushing to marry them, they are shunning them from society.

The Hispanics are watching their loved ones be kidnapped off the street and sent to camps, so they aren't keen.

Even deep south red state voters are losing food stamps and welfare benefits already, and this bill will make it worse. Especially when they start taking away peoples healthcare. My sister in law has every guardrail she had to help her and will likely be homeless by years end, and she voted for him. She is, of course, a "democrat" now. Right. Next election she will check the R box again, just like they all will.

Protests planned for the 4th of July. It will be interesting to see how those go.

MaizieD Tue 01-Jul-25 22:54:43

I know you're not getting responses, imaround but please do keep on posting. US politics is not the centre of attention here in the UK any more, but I'm sure many of us are still very interested. This Bill is a nightmare.

By the way, what do you think of the Democrat choice of candidate to run for the Mayor of New York? I gather it's not met with universal approval...

imaround Tue 01-Jul-25 22:04:45

I am mostly ignoring what is going on because it creates so much stress. But here is a quick update.

Trumps Big Beautiful Bill passed the Senate. It is heading back to the House. Who knows what will happen there, but I expect it to pass. I actually am not 100% what is in the Senate version, but I am hearing it is pretty bad.

It budgets $160 billion to ICE to build detention camps for migrants. He is also starting the process to denaturalize naturalized citizens. A judge has ask for advice from the SC on if some US Born babies are citizens at this point. They are also working on finding (how I have no idea) people who lied on their citizenship forms and deport them. I wonder if Melania and Elon are going to go? Melania came in on a Einstein Visa, which is ludicrous at best, and Elon admitted he overstayed his Visa and lied on his forms. Frankly, with his new rules, Barron wouldn't be considered a US Citizen since his mother was not at the time. I cant imaging they would strip HIS citizenship away though.

It takes away healthcare for over 16 million people. I have a friend who is on lifelong chemo at $20,000 a month. She will likely lose her coverage and just, die I guess?

Trump and Elon are not getting along again. Trump mentioned something about deporting Elon. Elon is threatening to create a new political party and primary out any Republican who supports this bill. To bad they cant work it out with a duel.

The Supreme Court agreed to hear a campaign finance case which, if JD Vance wins, will create an even more uneven playing field. As it is, most politicians are already wealthy. Having no limits on campaign finance will make it worse.

imaround Mon 30-Jun-25 00:17:46

I hate to say it, but good. Of course, they are taking us all down with them, but they need to feel the pain in their pocketbooks in order to snap out of the cult, IMO.

Trump is trying to get Republicans to break the rules and override the parliamentarian. She keeps removing things from his Big Beautiful Bill and making him mad.

thehill.com/homenews/administration/5376089-trump-urges-republicans-to-overrule-parliamentarian/

Iam64 Sun 29-Jun-25 15:43:12

Evidently, visitor numbers to America from Europe continue to drop 🙈