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Starmer v Badenoch at PMQ’s yesterday

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Wyllow3 Wed 11-Jun-25 23:42:52

Well, what is your take?

(Is a “u turn” OK as it does give whats needed - or to be criticised for flipping?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6M25Klnodo

8 minutes you need to watch it all

I find Badenoch trying to catch him out, but doesn’t manage…what she doesn’t say, is how Labour was left with the crisis in prisons, in the NHS, in schools, in housing…

Gets interesting at 6.20 onwards as moves to foreign affairs..

Stiff Fri 13-Jun-25 14:50:44

Marg75. Fully agree with you.

Stiff Fri 13-Jun-25 14:44:02

Me neither re Starmer. Can't stand the man or Labour tbh.

Oldwoman70 Fri 13-Jun-25 14:25:58

MayBee70

Oldwoman70

When I saw the name of this thread I just knew what the majority would be saying!

Have you forgotten that just 4 days after taking office they stopped the WFA, something they must have planned all along but didn't mention in their manifesto?

Starmer has done so many u-turns he must be dizzy - he has no political convictions, he is just interested in keeping his post as PM which is why he surrounds himself with incompetents such as Rayner, Lammy and Reeves.

Why is it wrong for Badenoch to have a second home but not for Rayner to claim expenses for living in one but in fact be living in another? Why was it OK for her to buy under the "Right to Buy" but she doesn't want anyone else to have that opportunity?

Why is it none of the Labour MPs I have contacted can tell me why they are happy to cut benefits for disabled people but do nothing about the £361 per day being paid to those who turn up at the House of Lords for a subsidised lunch, subsidised bar and a nap?

Why did none of them answer my question why they think someone with an income of £90,000 (an MPs salary) needs help with their energy costs but someone with an income of £12,000 doesn't!

Only your own constituency MP is obliged to reply to any letter/emails sent to them.

I wrote to the others because my own (Labour) MP didn't answer. She hasn't replied to any emails I have sent - seems she was only interested in my views when seeking my vote!

Mojack26 Fri 13-Jun-25 14:21:38

Cannot stand either!

mabon1 Fri 13-Jun-25 14:09:56

Badenoch can't hold a candle to Sir Kier Starmer.

MayBee70 Fri 13-Jun-25 14:08:04

Oldwoman70

When I saw the name of this thread I just knew what the majority would be saying!

Have you forgotten that just 4 days after taking office they stopped the WFA, something they must have planned all along but didn't mention in their manifesto?

Starmer has done so many u-turns he must be dizzy - he has no political convictions, he is just interested in keeping his post as PM which is why he surrounds himself with incompetents such as Rayner, Lammy and Reeves.

Why is it wrong for Badenoch to have a second home but not for Rayner to claim expenses for living in one but in fact be living in another? Why was it OK for her to buy under the "Right to Buy" but she doesn't want anyone else to have that opportunity?

Why is it none of the Labour MPs I have contacted can tell me why they are happy to cut benefits for disabled people but do nothing about the £361 per day being paid to those who turn up at the House of Lords for a subsidised lunch, subsidised bar and a nap?

Why did none of them answer my question why they think someone with an income of £90,000 (an MPs salary) needs help with their energy costs but someone with an income of £12,000 doesn't!

Only your own constituency MP is obliged to reply to any letter/emails sent to them.

Susieq62 Fri 13-Jun-25 14:00:31

Nanna8 I love how you know so much about us from down under ! Your thoughts are to be admired given you have not lived here for a very long time! Starmer might be dull but he is intelligent as is proven at every PMQT
Wish I could say the same about your politicians and Badenoch! You seem to have a downer on the country that provided you with the opportunity to emigrate all those years ago! You know free education etc

Oldwoman70 Fri 13-Jun-25 13:45:17

When I saw the name of this thread I just knew what the majority would be saying!

Have you forgotten that just 4 days after taking office they stopped the WFA, something they must have planned all along but didn't mention in their manifesto?

Starmer has done so many u-turns he must be dizzy - he has no political convictions, he is just interested in keeping his post as PM which is why he surrounds himself with incompetents such as Rayner, Lammy and Reeves.

Why is it wrong for Badenoch to have a second home but not for Rayner to claim expenses for living in one but in fact be living in another? Why was it OK for her to buy under the "Right to Buy" but she doesn't want anyone else to have that opportunity?

Why is it none of the Labour MPs I have contacted can tell me why they are happy to cut benefits for disabled people but do nothing about the £361 per day being paid to those who turn up at the House of Lords for a subsidised lunch, subsidised bar and a nap?

Why did none of them answer my question why they think someone with an income of £90,000 (an MPs salary) needs help with their energy costs but someone with an income of £12,000 doesn't!

Skydancer Thu 12-Jun-25 21:57:32

Iam64

So do I - well said Cossy
Starmer is genuine, has integrity, a good track record in his legal and now political work
He’s also the best prime minister we’ve had in over fourteen years

I agree. We in this country can sleep peacefully at night knowing we have a stable leader - unlike many people in America.

Iam64 Thu 12-Jun-25 20:49:16

ronib

Didn’t Boris have some popularity at the 11 months mark?

Only from people who disregarded his behaviour and history

Oreo Thu 12-Jun-25 20:43:53

I really can’t see that Badenoch will be LOTO in three years time, probably less.

Casdon Thu 12-Jun-25 20:09:59

Some were fooled by his surface charm, even though he carried huge baggage from past misdemeanours.

ronib Thu 12-Jun-25 19:39:49

Didn’t Boris have some popularity at the 11 months mark?

LizzieDrip Thu 12-Jun-25 19:27:42

Casdon

That made me laugh out loud ronib, as what you suggest is the exact opposite of the approach taken by Starmer’s critics, including yourself - oh, the irony!

🤣🤣🤣

Casdon Thu 12-Jun-25 19:23:30

That made me laugh out loud ronib, as what you suggest is the exact opposite of the approach taken by Starmer’s critics, including yourself - oh, the irony!

growstuff Thu 12-Jun-25 19:17:48

ronib

Maybe wait slightly longer than 11 months in the post before jumping to conclusions? To the Starmer fans …

I guess that also applies to the detractors.

ronib Thu 12-Jun-25 19:14:09

Maybe wait slightly longer than 11 months in the post before jumping to conclusions? To the Starmer fans …

LizzieDrip Thu 12-Jun-25 18:01:29

Iam64

So do I - well said Cossy
Starmer is genuine, has integrity, a good track record in his legal and now political work
He’s also the best prime minister we’ve had in over fourteen years

👏👏👏

Iam64 Thu 12-Jun-25 17:07:09

So do I - well said Cossy
Starmer is genuine, has integrity, a good track record in his legal and now political work
He’s also the best prime minister we’ve had in over fourteen years

Cossy Thu 12-Jun-25 16:27:02

LizzieDrip

To both your above posts Cossy.

smile thanks

LizzieDrip Thu 12-Jun-25 16:23:43

To both your above posts Cossy.

LizzieDrip Thu 12-Jun-25 16:22:44

Hear, hear Cossy. I second that!

Cossy Thu 12-Jun-25 16:22:04

LizzieDrip

So she can claim all those expenses for a house in the constituency … that she doesn’t even live inangry!!!

It’s bloody disgraceful!

I shall be very interested to see if Farage claims expenses for his Clacton house, which is purchased and in his current girlfriend’s name.

Another MP rarely there and never held surgeries nor ever will (stated by Farage)

Cossy Thu 12-Jun-25 16:16:24

Maremia

Starmer has nothing going for him...apart from a stonkin' majority in the House of Commons.

In your (less than) humble opinion!

Many of us still have respect for Starmer, many of us believe he has “plenty going for him”

Imo, he’s measured, polite, well educated, with an understanding of “real” people as he had a pretty normal upbringing, he’s very bright.

I don’t need a flashy, gregarious, charismatic PM, I simply ask for a stable, sensible, safe pair of hands, and I truly believe this is Starmer.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 12-Jun-25 16:14:52

Maremia

Starmer has nothing going for him...apart from a stonkin' majority in the House of Commons.

Plus a great deal of integrity.