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Please leave the politics and do your job!

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Sago Wed 25-Jun-25 08:51:13

So now the CO-OP has decided to boycott Israeli goods in their stores.
Why can’t retailers, musicians, actors etc just leave the politics to the politicians?
Benedict Cumberbatch was at one time giving anti government speeches after his curtain call,
Gary Linekar should have stuck to being a football pundit and the CO-OP should just sell food.
AIBU.

fancythat Wed 25-Jun-25 10:29:15

Casdon

They aren’t virtue signalling nanna8, they are doing what they have always done, and responding according to the principles on which they were founded. It is the press that picked up that Israel is on the list of 15 countries.

I think people forget that the Co Op is not a traditional supermarket, it is owned by its members.

As far as I know, I am still a member.
I dont remember getting consulted.

fancythat Wed 25-Jun-25 10:30:12

EkwaNimitee

This is why I am a Co-op member!

Out of interest, did you get contacted?

GrannyGravy13 Wed 25-Jun-25 10:31:28

I am a member and I definitely was not consulted.

LizzieDrip Wed 25-Jun-25 10:53:56

nanna8

So you think the UK doesn’t ignore human rights then ?

The UK does not ignore human rights nanna8.

If you have evidence to the contrary, perhaps you could enlighten me.

Oreo Wed 25-Jun-25 11:04:52

GrannyGravy13

I am a member and I definitely was not consulted.

Same here.
I just use them as a local shop to pop into for things I run out of, my main shop is done elsewhere.

Silverbrooks Wed 25-Jun-25 11:09:22

The motion to remove Israeli goods from shelves was passed at the Co-op AGM on 17 May 2025 with support from nearly 73% of its members.

www.coop.co.uk/blog/everything-you-need-to-know-about-our-2025-annual-general-meeting

Voting results here (shortened as it’s a very long URL)

tinyurl.com/33ts3vxd

Motion 13

Individual Member Motion – Trading with Israel

We ask the Board to demonstrate fairness and consistency in its ethical decision- making, and cease all trading with Israel. The Co-op was the first supermarket to boycott Russian products in March 2022, a week after the invasion of Ukraine. Since October 2023, Israel has completely destroyed Gaza and wiped out its key infrastructure - including schools, hospitals and universities. By July 2024, it was estimated that at least 186,000 Gazans – mainly women and children - had died as a result of the bombing, destruction of health facilities, and denial of essential aid (The Lancet 20.7.24). The International Court of Justice has ruled that Israel has a ‘plausible case to answer’ for genocide and that Israel's laws in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967 are 'tantamount to apartheid'. Israel has invaded the sovereign nations of Lebanon and Syria. We urge the Board to show moral courage and leadership, apply the same ethical principles and values it did to Russia, and take all Israeli products off the shelves.

assets.ctfassets.net/5ywmq66472jr/3t5zeE9NtECWOcbwe6EbFl/cb688a2ccd70c908325f4d6ebe96011f/Motion_13.pdf

fancythat Wed 25-Jun-25 11:12:40

Google says "73% of members backed a motion to boycott.."

How come so many of us here did not hear anything at all?

Oreo Wed 25-Jun-25 11:13:35

What Israeli goods apart from occasional oranges are there on the shelves, out of interest ? If anyone knows, otherwise google is my friend.
I never have time to check country of origin but I may do now in major supermarkets in order to buy Israeli goods.

fancythat Wed 25-Jun-25 11:21:23

fancythat

Google says "73% of members backed a motion to boycott.."

How come so many of us here did not hear anything at all?

Relatively speaking that is.

Something doesnt sound right to me.

fancythat Wed 25-Jun-25 11:23:05

Oreo

What Israeli goods apart from occasional oranges are there on the shelves, out of interest ? If anyone knows, otherwise google is my friend.
I never have time to check country of origin but I may do now in major supermarkets in order to buy Israeli goods.

Avocados, peppers, herbs and dates apparently.

Casdon Wed 25-Jun-25 11:34:42

fancythat

Google says "73% of members backed a motion to boycott.."

How come so many of us here did not hear anything at all?

Probably because you don’t actively engage as a member with the decision making processes, which are all available to all members. This was passed at the AGM in May.
www.coop.co.uk/blog/everything-you-need-to-know-about-our-2025-annual-general-meeting

MayBee70 Wed 25-Jun-25 11:44:30

Mt61

I can’t stick GL so I don’t buy walkers crisps, too expensive anyway.
When he was paid millions as a football pundit, he should have stuck to that.

If he had done we wouldn’t have the excellent The rest is politics/history/entertainment podcasts.

M0nica Wed 25-Jun-25 11:48:44

All countries can is some way or form be defined as abusing 'human rights', Some times this is a question of definition.

However there are a number of countries where there is state organised systematic abuse of rights and those are the countries on the list. I trust if Israel is on the list, and I think it should be, so should the West bank and Gaza strip.

The governments of both warring nations in the Middle East are equally unpleasant, that one is bigger and has more noney and arms than the other, should not be allowed to hide who started this current conflict and how they did it. Not by an attack on armed forces and key faciities but the murder, rape and hostage taking of innocent civilians in an unprovoked attack. A plague on both their houses and both should be on the list.

Grantanow Wed 25-Jun-25 11:51:41

The Co-op is the only general food shop where I live so it's taken a decision I have to live with given the awful public transport. I recall being asked to boycott South African oranges in the 1960s. Moroccan oranges were often the substitute but the regime there was bad too. I think it's often posturing for virtue.

Casdon Wed 25-Jun-25 11:56:45

The countries on the list:
Afghanistan
Belarus
Central African Republic
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea)
Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC)
Haiti
Iran
Israel
Libya
Mali
Myanmar
Russia
Somalia
South Sudan
Sudan
Syria
Yemen

Claremont Wed 25-Jun-25 12:17:19

Grantanow

The Co-op is the only general food shop where I live so it's taken a decision I have to live with given the awful public transport. I recall being asked to boycott South African oranges in the 1960s. Moroccan oranges were often the substitute but the regime there was bad too. I think it's often posturing for virtue.

Clever use of words, 'posturing for virtue'.

My husband's faily had to leave SA due to Apartheid in 1947. And the rest of the family had to endure almost 50 years of terrible hardship due to this dreadfuk, cruel regime- the family split up based on hair curl (the dreaded pencil test) and skin tone, and parental heritage A sick, horrible regime- and many lost all, houses and communities bulldozed, jobs gone, and worse.

We were proud to boycott all SA goods, and it was NOT either 'posturing for virtue' or 'virtue signalling'.

If anyone had gone out of their way, not to boycott but to intetntionally buy insupport of this regime? Best if I don't write down how I, or others so severey affected, would have reacted.

Claremont Wed 25-Jun-25 12:18:59

husband's (mixed) family

NotSpaghetti Wed 25-Jun-25 12:20:26

I'm with you argymargy

No Nestlé in my house!
Not since about 1979!

NotSpaghetti Wed 25-Jun-25 12:21:43

Thanks Casdon for the list.

Claremont Wed 25-Jun-25 12:35:48

NotSpaghetti

I'm with you argymargy

No Nestlé in my house!
Not since about 1979!

Same here. Dreaful people, formula milk and the 3rd world with no clean water or sanitation. And now refusing to acknowledge the right to clean water. My older bother inherited lots of Nestlé shares (diff father) and this is the ony subject we have argued about.

Very difficult to boycott Companies without doing further studies as a very small number of Companies own all the rest, and most people are unaware of who is who?

Explained here

tbr.ie/2019/05/28/629/

Caleo Wed 25-Jun-25 12:54:59

I too hate the insulting 'virtue signalling'.

I love the idea of endorsing ethical industries. Supporting them helps me to be virtuous when others are cooperating in the same virtues.

M0nica Wed 25-Jun-25 13:42:57

I believe that if individuals have principles that they are willing to stand up for, then they are to be admired.

What makes me uneasy with so many 'celebrities' is how many of them are all in agreement with each other and seem almost to follow each other like sheep. You feel if one changed their mind all would.

I have much more trust in the true principles and respect for people like JK Rowling and even, repellent though he is, Laurence Fox, who are prepared to go against the tide, despite the personal cost to them, than I have for some vacuous celebrity demonstrating against Israel, or condemning JK Rowling.

Cossy Wed 25-Jun-25 14:03:15

nanna8

So you think the UK doesn’t ignore human rights then ?

Of course it does, when suits, just like all other countries.

NotSpaghetti Wed 25-Jun-25 14:03:53

Please leave the politics and do your job!

In the case of the co-op the politics are a big part of the job though.

nanna8 Wed 25-Jun-25 14:05:07

M0nica

I believe that if individuals have principles that they are willing to stand up for, then they are to be admired.

What makes me uneasy with so many 'celebrities' is how many of them are all in agreement with each other and seem almost to follow each other like sheep. You feel if one changed their mind all would.

I have much more trust in the true principles and respect for people like JK Rowling and even, repellent though he is, Laurence Fox, who are prepared to go against the tide, despite the personal cost to them, than I have for some vacuous celebrity demonstrating against Israel, or condemning JK Rowling.

I agree. Good points. I apologise about the co-op because I didn’t know what it was having never encountered one.