Please leave the politics and do your job!

Casdon

Surely the alternative is to support corrupt regimes by default though Allira?
It would be very interesting to have an in depth look at other supermarkets. At least the Co Op has always been upfront about its operating principles, whereas I suspect a similar deep dive into the way other supermarkets operate would not make pretty reading.

Yes, that's why it's a conundrum.

Mt61

I can’t stick GL so I don’t buy walkers crisps, too expensive anyway.
When he was paid millions as a football pundit, he should have stuck to that.

This is such an inane, ridiculous point of view. Are you suggesting that all public figures, broadcasters, media personalities, sports pundits...in fact anyone who appears on any screens where you and I can see them - should be banned from expressing a personal opinion on social media / TV / radio, etc, etc for the whole tenure of their employment??? Try thinking about what you're saying.

Cossy

Completely disagree, those who have a voice, a choice, should use it for the good of others.

Btw, I absolutely loathe the expression “virtual signalling” a nonsense expression used far too much. IMO, it’s pretty obvious when large companies make it clear where their ethics and morals lie.

Is it virtual signalling when retailers state “products not tested on animals”?

Completely agree. If people want to tell the world that they are doing / have done something virtuous, why should it matter? The importat thing is the virtuous act itself. Personally think we could do with a lot more virtue in the world, signalled or not.

the difference being we are not at war with Israel

Personally think we could do with a lot more virtue in the world

Indeed!

I agree 100% sargo, people should stop trying to all be holier than thou and preachy.

Totally agree with you! And when they make their vitriolic comments they are so pompous and smug! As if they know anything other than biased media reporting!

Outcast52

Mt61

I can’t stick GL so I don’t buy walkers crisps, too expensive anyway.
When he was paid millions as a football pundit, he should have stuck to that.

This is such an inane, ridiculous point of view. Are you suggesting that all public figures, broadcasters, media personalities, sports pundits...in fact anyone who appears on any screens where you and I can see them - should be banned from expressing a personal opinion on social media / TV / radio, etc, etc for the whole tenure of their employment??? Try thinking about what you're saying.

So people around the world should have happily gone on buying German goods at the time of WW2 and the Holocaust?

letmein

I agree 100% sargo, people should stop trying to all be holier than thou and preachy.

Yes very preachy about genocide. Silly people.

Go and eat some crisps instead.

I see you condone Hamas

We're boycotting US and Israeli goods. Our money and our choice.

Nan0

I see you condone Hamas

Nope, I don't like them either. Or the Iranian regime, or the Russian regime. My enemies enemy is not my friend. Simple thinking there Nan0.

Nan0

I see you condone Hamas

If that is directed to me, then we really are in the playground aren't we?

( Setting timer for ususal suspects to have a go at me)

If we're boycotting shops that trade with countries whose human rights, culture and politics we disagree with, perhaps we should also boycott goods from the worst polluting countries i.e. USA, China, India and Russia who, along with Japan and the EU, produce, between them over 60% of global emissions (Google search for worst polluting countries.)

I always look at country of origin when considering fresh stuff and often reject things if there's no British supplier. For example, I never buy avocados because of the rain forest clearances as well as the food miles. However, we'd hardly eat at all if we didn't at least buy from the EU e.g. Italy, tinned tomatoes.
Here in the UK we actually produce about 60% of our own food, 30% comes from the EU and 10% from other countries. (All Google searches.)

We need to look at labels and support our farmers when buying apples, brassicas, potatoes, other root crops, meat, milk, cheese and eggs. I also look at country of origin when buying other goods e.g. from Amazon. I'll do without if it's made in China. It's likely to be cheap tat anyway, often produced by forced labour.

Claremont

Outcast52

Mt61

I can’t stick GL so I don’t buy walkers crisps, too expensive anyway.
When he was paid millions as a football pundit, he should have stuck to that.

This is such an inane, ridiculous point of view. Are you suggesting that all public figures, broadcasters, media personalities, sports pundits...in fact anyone who appears on any screens where you and I can see them - should be banned from expressing a personal opinion on social media / TV / radio, etc, etc for the whole tenure of their employment??? Try thinking about what you're saying.

So people around the world should have happily gone on buying German goods at the time of WW2 and the Holocaust?

Germany did continue trading with its Allies and neutral countries during WW2 and looted goods from its own citizens and countries it had invaded.

Obviously enemies would not trade with each other but I wasn't aware we were at war with any other country and I fervently hope we will not be at any time in the future.

lafergar

Nan0

I see you condone Hamas

If that is directed to me, then we really are in the playground aren't we?

( Setting timer for ususal suspects to have a go at me)

Eating crisps?

(Sorry, it was inevitable!)

Hear hear.
Everything is politics

I'll do without if it's made in China
Garlic for instance!!
Why?

We grow onions in this country, why not garlic? I buy Spanish.

In my view the leader of the Israeli government is guilty of war crimes as there is bombing of schools and hospitals. So the least that i can do is avoid goods from Israel.
The decision is based on views from co-op members

As for leaving politics to politicians - that does not seem to have stopped the atrocities has it?

It’s unlikely Marks and Spencer will do this!

YABU

Allira

Claremont

Outcast52

Mt61

I can’t stick GL so I don’t buy walkers crisps, too expensive anyway.
When he was paid millions as a football pundit, he should have stuck to that.

This is such an inane, ridiculous point of view. Are you suggesting that all public figures, broadcasters, media personalities, sports pundits...in fact anyone who appears on any screens where you and I can see them - should be banned from expressing a personal opinion on social media / TV / radio, etc, etc for the whole tenure of their employment??? Try thinking about what you're saying.

So people around the world should have happily gone on buying German goods at the time of WW2 and the Holocaust?

Germany did continue trading with its Allies and neutral countries during WW2 and looted goods from its own citizens and countries it had invaded.

Obviously enemies would not trade with each other but I wasn't aware we were at war with any other country and I fervently hope we will not be at any time in the future.

You don't need to be at war with a country to make sure you don't support it. Call it 'virtue signalling' for all I care- but refusing to support a regime that attacks another wrongly, illegally and wants to expulse anyone daring to survive, is a matter of principle, morality and humanity. Quite 'simple' really.

lafergar

Nan0

I see you condone Hamas

If that is directed to me, then we really are in the playground aren't we?

( Setting timer for ususal suspects to have a go at me)

Indeed (see other thread).

YABU

I love him.