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Boat punctured on the French coast.

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Wyllow3 Sat 05-Jul-25 12:35:54

Ouch, maybe I was a little too keen as I wrote the OP...hmm

Wyllow3 Sat 05-Jul-25 12:32:43

(I do take your point, Primrose, but it's actually interesting to read both, there are different people and its worth 2 discussions - putting them together would be chaos maybe?)

Wyllow3 Sat 05-Jul-25 12:29:48

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Primrose53

This needs merging with a similar thread.

Yes, the title on this thread is preferable. I missed the first thread.
I'm currently spending the summer here in France, so I am listening first hand to news here about the 300 metres proposition.
Sometimes things get lost in translation in English newspapers.

And it has the punch of the picture in too, one picture, a thousand words....

Maremia Sat 05-Jul-25 10:27:15

As I said on another thread, do you remember the Kosovans who came here to escape that war in the 1990's?
They stayed for as long as they had to, then went back home when the war ended. I remember seeing the convoy of buses, on the news, heading out.
So, the answer to 'asylum seeking' is simple...stop the wars. But unfortunately, not simple to achieve.

Iam64 Sat 05-Jul-25 08:29:35

The radio report I heard indicated the man directing people was one of the smugglers.
Police were right to intervene as the boat was overcrowded and danger to life was clear.
Let’s hope the governments discussions with the French come up with constructive ways of saving lives. Stopping these criminal gangs is never going to be easy or speedy

As others have pointed out, global issues, war, famine etc are such that stopping people trying to get to Northern Europe underpins this

escaped Sat 05-Jul-25 08:17:24

Primrose53

This needs merging with a similar thread.

Yes, the title on this thread is preferable. I missed the first thread.
I'm currently spending the summer here in France, so I am listening first hand to news here about the 300 metres proposition.
Sometimes things get lost in translation in English newspapers.

Primrose53 Sat 05-Jul-25 08:12:55

This needs merging with a similar thread.

Wyllow3 Sat 05-Jul-25 00:06:14

We've seen pictures before of course, but it really shows how dangerous it really is.

It was a photo from the TV, chosen as it shows it taking place, and cropped to get in as close as possible.

Wyllow3 Sat 05-Jul-25 00:04:03

The main thing is our improved relationship with the French. It's costing us - but what other way?

Wyllow3 Sat 05-Jul-25 00:03:14

The boat shown was a lot closer, it will depend on how sloping the beach is, maybe it will be a specified depth?

escaped Fri 04-Jul-25 23:13:22

I heard that the boat was punctured because it was dangerous - though fgs, surely they're all dangerous once they get out into The Channel! The gendarmes dragged it back to shore and got the people off.
Macron's visit to London is going to include talks about the French police being able to stop boats in waters up to 300 metres I believe.

Allira Fri 04-Jul-25 23:04:12

There was a man in the water directing people to the boat. 🤔

Wyllow3 Fri 04-Jul-25 23:03:56

I imagine the people will return to their rough living.

The French may have agreed to processing people in the past, when numbers were small, but now? Can we actually imagine it?

Wyllow3 Fri 04-Jul-25 23:02:35

I don't know, Allira, it wasn't specifically on the BBC News, that information may be available elsewhere?

Allira Fri 04-Jul-25 22:56:49

Who was the man directing operations? Was he a smuggler?

MaizieD Fri 04-Jul-25 22:51:13

It really is time that a safe routes policy was implemented. It would severely impair the smuggler's businesses.

We also should have taken up the French offer, made long ago, to allow us to process asylum seekers in France.

I wonder what will happen to the people wo were taken off the boat?

Wyllow3 Fri 04-Jul-25 22:36:36

I have mixed feelings. I have had to come to the conclusion as a supporter of receiving incomers, including arriving by boats: today, BBC News filmed a boat being punctured safely, in shallow water.

The Labour Party discussions with France have been. enplaning for some time, and have further discussions next week to further the policy.

My mixed feelings are because I do believe that true asylum seekers do deserve the right of a safe haven, but unless we develop assessment systems outside the UK, we have to take this action.

We honestly can't cope with the numbers arriving at the rate they are, and although in theory it would be better for assessment abroad, practically it isn't possible, unless someone here can produce a solution that politicians of all colours would prefer.

The picture shows what actually happened: all were safe, although it was heart breaking to see some of the faces on the boat, a woman with her child, having to get back on the beach - but as things stand, I'm glad that Labour are taking this action until a better system of selecting those who can come and live here is found.