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Macron's state visit.

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escaped Tue 08-Jul-25 07:32:53

Seeing as he's probably about to board his plane, and road closures are now being put in place around Windsor, I thought I'd start a thread on Macron's state visit.
There's an awful lot riding on it.
Nice to see the younger royals getting involved too.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Jul-25 15:57:06

Oreo

Anniebach

Whitewavemark2
But it is only a big issue to some - notably the old demographic, Tory voters and less educated.

I am not a Tory voter !

It’s a big issue right across the board and including our government too, are they all the older demographic, tory voters and less educated? 😂Honestly the twaddle sometimes written on here.

As I said previously take that up with the report producing the data.

I can’t understand why people are so touchy about a simple report.

Barbadosbelle Wed 09-Jul-25 15:58:28

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We also have much less land per person than most European countries with a similar (or lesser) population than us.
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Oreo Wed 09-Jul-25 15:58:56

Because it’s a load of rubbish could be one factor😁

Allira Wed 09-Jul-25 16:04:26

You must live in a very rural area to not be touched by what is happening.

I think that I not necessarily true.

Many may live in middle-class areas, their family, friends and neighbours may be immigrants but they will also be middle-class professionals.

Many people in the UK are immune and oblivious to how others may live, that includes politicians.

Allira Wed 09-Jul-25 16:06:31

I'll look for the link to the report, having only just logged on again.

Allira Wed 09-Jul-25 16:11:01

Whitewavemark2

But it is only a big issue to some - notably the old demographic, Tory voters and less educated.

There are far bigger issues.

Like the economy

Defence

Intelligence

Etc etc.

Try telling that to Macron and Starmer!! 😁

Sorry, I can't find your link to that report, could you post it again please?
I might have to go again now but I'll bookmark this post.
Thanks.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Jul-25 16:11:55

Oreo

Because it’s a load of rubbish could be one factor😁

Now you have to provide evidence to show that the report is a load of rubbish.

Or is it just your belief?

I guess that is the answer.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Jul-25 16:12:48

Allira

Whitewavemark2

But it is only a big issue to some - notably the old demographic, Tory voters and less educated.

There are far bigger issues.

Like the economy

Defence

Intelligence

Etc etc.

Try telling that to Macron and Starmer!! 😁

Sorry, I can't find your link to that report, could you post it again please?
I might have to go again now but I'll bookmark this post.
Thanks.

I can’t do links but I will find and provide you with the reference.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Jul-25 16:18:01

So you have quite a wide choice.

There is the

Migration Observatory.

British Social Attitudes

Yougov

Taylor and Francis online

Science direct

If you require any more references I can provide them.

Allira Wed 09-Jul-25 16:23:00

Sorry, I thought it was a recent report by a University.

Maremia Wed 09-Jul-25 16:24:15

Long thread... is the discusssion about immigrants, who are keeping our care homes, NHS etc going or is it about refugees?
Refugees are a small part of the immigration issue.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Jul-25 16:41:45

Allira

Sorry, I thought it was a recent report by a University.

Oh I’ll get that as well. Bear with.

Maremia Wed 09-Jul-25 16:57:01

Hang on a wee sec...just checking that there is space behind the couch.
So, if you are living on mainland Britain, unless you can trace 'undiluted heritage' back to those mesolithic hunter gatherers, who walked back into the post Ice Age empty landscape, from mainland Europe, before the Doggerland area became submerged then

ALL OF YOUR ANCESTORS CAME OVER BY BOAT

grin grin grin grin grin

sundowngirl Wed 09-Jul-25 17:07:34

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

Anniebach

Whitewavemark2
But it is only a big issue to some - notably the old demographic, Tory voters and less educated.

I am not a Tory voter !

It’s a big issue right across the board and including our government too, are they all the older demographic, tory voters and less educated? 😂Honestly the twaddle sometimes written on here.

As I said previously take that up with the report producing the data.

I can’t understand why people are so touchy about a simple report.

It's not the report that we are 'so touchy about' it's because you were calling people Tory voters (as some kind of insult) and less educated. It is your remarks that are so offensive not the 'simple report'

Mt61 Wed 09-Jul-25 17:09:26

Nice to have you back on board FGT. I call you my husband’s new best friend as he enjoys your comments 😂

Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Jul-25 17:18:33

sundowngirl

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

Anniebach

Whitewavemark2
But it is only a big issue to some - notably the old demographic, Tory voters and less educated.

I am not a Tory voter !

It’s a big issue right across the board and including our government too, are they all the older demographic, tory voters and less educated? 😂Honestly the twaddle sometimes written on here.

As I said previously take that up with the report producing the data.

I can’t understand why people are so touchy about a simple report.

It's not the report that we are 'so touchy about' it's because you were calling people Tory voters (as some kind of insult) and less educated. It is your remarks that are so offensive not the 'simple report'

But I am not. For heavens sake, how often must I reiterate it.

I was providing evidence of the demography of a minority of the population see immigration as the biggest problem.

I was not suggesting who these people are it was the report!

I am not going to repeat it a single time more as it is getting boring! 😡

lafergar Wed 09-Jul-25 17:29:02

Maremia

Hang on a wee sec...just checking that there is space behind the couch.
So, if you are living on mainland Britain, unless you can trace 'undiluted heritage' back to those mesolithic hunter gatherers, who walked back into the post Ice Age empty landscape, from mainland Europe, before the Doggerland area became submerged then

ALL OF YOUR ANCESTORS CAME OVER BY BOAT

grin grin grin grin grin

Steady on old girl!

Bazza Wed 09-Jul-25 17:33:56

Does anyone know why Mick Jagger and Elton John were at the banquet? I just had a look at the menu, looks delicious and very British as you would expect, even down to our “champagne.”

lafergar Wed 09-Jul-25 17:39:49

Allira

MayBee70

If we hadn’t let the Afghan people down so badly we wouldn’t have as many people arriving from Afghanistan as we currently do.

But they have been invited.
They have been welcomed in this area.

And half their families are left behind. Shameful.

MayBee70 Wed 09-Jul-25 18:03:15

Memories of them trying to get onto planes; having to hide from the Taliban because they’d worked for the UK government sad.

Maremia Wed 09-Jul-25 18:04:34

That's refreshingly good to hear Allira, but I feel for those Afghan translators and others, who put themselves and their families into the firing line by working with the Allies. They should have been fast tracked out.

Oreo Wed 09-Jul-25 19:09:29

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

Because it’s a load of rubbish could be one factor😁

Now you have to provide evidence to show that the report is a load of rubbish.

Or is it just your belief?

I guess that is the answer.

I don’t actually have to do anything.😜

Oreo Wed 09-Jul-25 19:10:37

Bazza

Does anyone know why Mick Jagger and Elton John were at the banquet? I just had a look at the menu, looks delicious and very British as you would expect, even down to our “champagne.”

Were they singing for their supper?

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 09-Jul-25 19:30:21

I hope that talks are covering closer trade ties with France and the EU, as trading with the USA seems increasingly fraught with unpredictability and volatility.

Teazel2 Wed 09-Jul-25 19:35:52

Freya5

sundowngirl

Whitewavemark2

But it is only a big issue to some - notably the old demographic, Tory voters and less educated.

There are far bigger issues.

Like the economy

Defence

Intelligence

Etc etc.

How very rude!!

What makes you think that you are better educated than those of us that worry about the number of undocumented illegal (mostly young men) immigrants arriving on our shores. It should be a big issue for everyone and it certainly will be if it continues year on year out

The thousands that arrive by small boats per year equate to a city the size of Norwich and the numbers are increasing at an alarming rate.

You must live in a very rural area to not be touched by what is happening. Take your blinkers off

That is typical of that poster. Unless you think the same as them, if you dont agree with importing thousands of men who we know nothing about, you are ignorant and ill educated.
Well said.

Well said indeed 👏👏👏👏👏