Angela Rayner suspended from Unite Union

Yes, but could we match the amounts paid to certain politicians by the Russians and other foreign nations?

It's time that all political parties were state funded. Then they couldn't be accused of being in thrall to any particular interest.

Labour needs to find new sources of funding. The unions are no longer representatives of the broad working classes but limited mostly to the public sector.

UNITE spends its time re-examining its relationship with the Labour Party😄.

But as it no longer funds the Labour Party, most of its decisions are immaterial.

As Rayner had resigned, nor sure what the vote to suspend her achieved?

I have just watched an interview with Sharon Graham on BBC breakfast news.

795 delegates out of 800 voted to suspend Angela Rayner, and the same amount voted to re-examine UNITE’s relationship with the Labour Party.

Visgir1

I'm still a paying member of Unite.

Not all of us support the Labour Party. When I first joined (as an NHS professional, they took over NALGO) they ask you if you wanted to contribute to the Labour Party, it was a No from me.
This Union supports Professional as well as "Blue Collar" workers across the UK, I don't remember Corbin being pushed.

I’m a still paying member of Unite and I did/do support the Labour Party. However, Sarah Graham on her election manifesto for Unite promised she would always support members above a political party. It was for this reason I voted for them. Whether Rayner left or was suspended first I don’t know but I’m perfectly happy Unite are supporting their members.

I'm still a paying member of Unite.

Not all of us support the Labour Party. When I first joined (as an NHS professional, they took over NALGO) they ask you if you wanted to contribute to the Labour Party, it was a No from me.
This Union supports Professional as well as "Blue Collar" workers across the UK, I don't remember Corbin being pushed.

Sharon Graham, Unite’s general secretary, said: “Unite is crystal clear that it will call out bad employers regardless of the colour of their rosette. Angela Rayner has had every opportunity to intervene and resolve this dispute, but has instead backed a rogue council that has peddled lies and smeared its workers fighting huge pay cuts.”

“The disgraceful actions of the Government and a so-called Labour council is essentially fire and rehire and makes a joke of the Employment Relations Act promises. People up and down the country are asking whose side is the Labour Government on – and coming up with the answer ‘not workers’.”

Trouble in camp …

Apparently she quit Unite a number of months ago

M0nica

Spinnaker

The cynic in me says that she's been deliberately suspended from Unite so as to put some distance between her and them. Then along comes Starmer's position and hey ho, we have a new PM with whom relations with Unite will suddenly be all good again. Just a thought ...

I was about to post saying exactly the same thing!

Time will tell MOnica 😉😉

Unite’s move against Rayner appeared to be largely symbolic given the deputy prime minister had already cancelled her membership payments, although she was still recorded as being a member of Unite on the last list of ministerial interests published on 29 May.

So who is being inefficient? Angela Rayner or Unite?

Meanwhile, parts of Birmingham must be stinking in this weather.
I hope it's resolved as a matter f urgency.

Oreo

That’s about it Casdon the Council want to fire and rehire the workers for around £8,000 less per year, who would put up with that?

Not all the workers, or so I understood. The Council claims that only 17 workers would face a pay cut, those in the Waste Recycling and Collection Officer (WRCO) role which is being abolished.
If the role is not essential and to be abolished , why can they not offer those Officers redundancy and a payout as would happen in industry?

I believe the Union claims that 170 workers are involved.

So who is telling the truth?

It's complicated, but yes, Birmingham Council has had problems for quite some time.

No that isn’t correct. Unite has always had a fractious relationship with the Labour Party.

At present it is strongly against net zero for obvious reasons.

Spinnaker

The cynic in me says that she's been deliberately suspended from Unite so as to put some distance between her and them. Then along comes Starmer's position and hey ho, we have a new PM with whom relations with Unite will suddenly be all good again. Just a thought ...

I was about to post saying exactly the same thing!

Sorry Allsorts, that sounded a bit teacherish (snd I'm not!) but it was well meant.

Allsorts

You cant serve two masters.
I feel sorry for the bin me they should have accepted the last offer it was as good as it could have been , so I feel the person that led the strike let them down.
Birmingham is broke and you can’t get blood out of a stone.
Household rubbish has been collected each week, garden refuse not but have had full refund. Book an appointment at local tip for all recycling. All refuse put out should be done with respect for those collecting. The state that some people put out their rubbish is insulting to those collecting, takeaway boxes with food still in it and bowls of sauce, not in bags, bins spilling over. I wouldn't be collecting. Furniture etc fly tipped round the bins. Its certain areas with the biggest problem. Others very clean and the City centre spotless,
Birmingham had to have the council the same as those throughout the UK

Good post, nicely balanced Allsorts.

Whitewavemark2

Unite have always supported Corbyn.

Nothing new there.

What we are seeing is similar to what has happened to the Tory party. Who are now just a shell of what they were a few years ago.

There is a tussle between the left and centre left.

Be interesting to see how it plays out.

I'm afraid you are right Whitewave. Extremism does seem to be the order of the day among the loud and witless.

LizzieDrip

Angela Raynor resigned from Unite in April.

They pointed out that she cannot be suspended because she resigned from Unite in April

^The Independent online^

It quotes allies of Angela Rayner say she resigned in April

AR has remained silent on the matter.

Angela Raynor resigned from Unite in April.

They pointed out that she cannot be suspended because she resigned from Unite in April

The Independent online

Yes WW, no surprises here.

Sharon Graham, leader of Unite, is no supporter of Labour under KS. Unite’s financial contributions to the Labour Party were far higher when Corbyn was the party leader. Still not enough to prevent Corbyn losing two GEs though🤷‍♀️

The timing of Unite’s ‘re-evaluation’ of their relationship with Labour is very interesting. With a potential new left party on the horizon, maybe Unite will re-ignite its friendship with Corbyn.

Interesting🤔

I am in agreement with Allsorts it is very difficult if not nigh on impossible to have two masters.

Labour is moving away from its core Union values, unfortunately AR has to choose where her allegiance lies.

You cant serve two masters.
I feel sorry for the bin me they should have accepted the last offer it was as good as it could have been , so I feel the person that led the strike let them down.
Birmingham is broke and you can’t get blood out of a stone.
Household rubbish has been collected each week, garden refuse not but have had full refund. Book an appointment at local tip for all recycling. All refuse put out should be done with respect for those collecting. The state that some people put out their rubbish is insulting to those collecting, takeaway boxes with food still in it and bowls of sauce, not in bags, bins spilling over. I wouldn't be collecting. Furniture etc fly tipped round the bins. Its certain areas with the biggest problem. Others very clean and the City centre spotless,
Birmingham had to have the council the same as those throughout the UK

Unite have always supported Corbyn.

Nothing new there.

What we are seeing is similar to what has happened to the Tory party. Who are now just a shell of what they were a few years ago.

There is a tussle between the left and centre left.

Be interesting to see how it plays out.

That’s about it Casdon the Council want to fire and rehire the workers for around £8,000 less per year, who would put up with that?

As I read it, the dispute is about bringing the way the refuse collectors work in Birmingham City Council in line with how they work in other local authorities. As Oreo said, BCC has had a lot of issues, and it appears that the departmental staff, supported by the Union, have created roles that don’t exist elsewhere. Now the Council has decided that they want working patterns and pay rates to return to the norm, there is a dispute about roles and pay protection. Is that what those who know more than I do about this than I do think has brought them to this point?