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Dianne Abbot - did she want to be suspended, again .

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 18-Jul-25 15:00:27

Casdon

To be honest I’m weary of her. She fits better with the Corbyn party, I just wish she had shown some bottle and resigned to join them.

Me too. Professional victimhood according to my (black) taxi driver earlier today.

Oreo Fri 18-Jul-25 14:47:37

Casdon

To be honest I’m weary of her. She fits better with the Corbyn party, I just wish she had shown some bottle and resigned to join them.

Same here.

Anniebach Fri 18-Jul-25 14:47:15

Thank you Iam, she claims what she said last year was right even though last year she apologised for it.

Quote Granmarderby10 Fri 18-Jul-25 14:35:41
I instantly know whether someone is black. I don’t instantly know if someone is a Jew on appearance.

Last year a police officer officer in the Met described a man as
Openly Jewish !

Casdon Fri 18-Jul-25 14:45:02

To be honest I’m weary of her. She fits better with the Corbyn party, I just wish she had shown some bottle and resigned to join them.

Granmarderby10 Fri 18-Jul-25 14:35:41

I instantly know whether someone is black. I don’t instantly know if someone is a Jew on appearance.

Even if I did “know” someone to be a Jew it would mean nothing to me any more than if they said they were a Catholic or indeed an Atheist.

It is to do with what brand of useless nonsense our heads were filled with when growing up.

I never understood the fascination and prejudice with red hair either. Just like the fuss made over very blonde hair.
It is just a colouring. It is just silly.

Travellers are more of a prominent issue nowdays whereas Gypsies were the thing of fairy tales when I was a child.
Many people just ape what their parents said about them even if they are largely unaffected on a day to day basis by travelling communities. It is more political than personal.

Being black however brings with it a host of possibilities for prejudice because of the long history of black people being abused and vilified by white people.
Some is overt racism some more subtle, some is undoubtedly “built in” to our politics, education, policing,Royal family, western churches.
So in that way I do understand what Diane Abbot is saying.

There is a level of sheer hatred that is spouted by the extreme racist in our society that is directed at black people that is only in my opinion matched by extreme misogynists such as those known as incels.

Iam64 Fri 18-Jul-25 14:29:17

Apologies for posting in haste and not quitting from DA. Below is my typing of an article in today’s Guardian

She said she did not regret her past remarks on racism. Her remarks two years ago that people of colour experienced racism all their lives, which was different from the prejudice experienced by Jewish people, Irish people and Travellers.

In a statement on Newsnight Abbot said “ it is obvious this Labour leadership wants me out. My comments in the interview were factually correct, as any fair minded person would accept”

In the interview with the bbc earlier on Thursday, Abbott said “clearly there must be a difference between racism which is about colour and other types of racism, because you can see a Travellor or a Jewish person walking down the street and you don’t know

“I just think that it’s silly to try and claim that racism which is about skin colour is the same as other types of racism. I don’t know why people would say that.”

NotSpaghetti Fri 18-Jul-25 14:05:09

No. She didn't exactly say that Iam

Anniebach Fri 18-Jul-25 14:05:03

She repeated what she said the first time she was suspended

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 18-Jul-25 14:02:48

I think she and David Lammy are kindred spirits. 🤷‍♀️

Ilovecheese Fri 18-Jul-25 13:59:23

That is not really a fair summary of what Diane Abbot said. I think anyone wanting to post an opinion should maybe have a listen to what she actually said first.

Iam64 Fri 18-Jul-25 13:56:56

DA has given an interview in which she doubles down on her previous comments that only black people are subjected to racism. Travellers, Jewish people are in her view treated like red heads
She’s been suspended again. No diubt that’s what she wanted.