‘Oh Jeremy Corbyn’ 🎵 🎶 and Zarah Sultana have confirmed the launch of their new political party today!

Extremists destroy things

As Starmer has been LP leader since 2020 I don't think you can lay the LP's current state of incompetence at Corbyn's door.

Oh, but you can, it influenced which person was chosen to succeed him - the person who is now the Prime Minister.

It also influenced those who are now MPs. Many more able people, withdrew from politics and the Labour party because of their experience of the way the relatively small extreme left wing element in the party has wagged the Labour dog, to its disadvantage.

Something that the Conservatives always avoided doing until recently, and we have seen the deleterious effect that has had on that party as well.

Owen Jones is so excited about Corbyn’s party !

Personally competent or not, Corbyn's new party will split the Labour vote and let Farage's party in. A disaster for which Corbyn will be responsible.

I’m not a fan of Keir Starmer but I hesitate to say that this government is more incompetent than the last Conservative government Monica. That would be difficult for any government to match, let alone exceed, and that is without the levels of corruption, dishonesty and greed which I think have been unmatched in my lifetime. But Starmer supporters who want a centre ground, neither one thing nor the other Labour Party will always use Jeremy Corbyn as a scapegoat for any failures of this current government. (That’s not aimed at you Monica, I’m not even sure whether or not you are a Labour or Starmer supporter).

As Starmer has been LP leader since 2020 I don't think you can lay the LP's current state of incompetence at Corbyn's door.

It's hands are tied by fear, fear of the wealthy, fear of Reform and it has nailed its colours firmly to the mast of big business, finance and neoliberal economic policy. The sooner it's gone, the better. At least Farage isn't pretending to be anything but a fascist...

MaizieD

I have to agree with you, Eloethan.

Corbyn is earnestly principled (read Diane Abbot's account of their affair ) and not at all pragmatic. Which makes him inspiring but unfortunately he's a very poor politician. A leader needs to be god at politics.

Maizie In your opinion. Many more of us see this man as an untrustworthy blithering idiot who couldn't orgainise a p*ss-up in a brewery.

A man who did more to reduce the Labour party to its current state of incompetence that lead them to think that Keir Starmer had leadership qualities resulting in the current failure of government in this country.

Many of us thought no government culd be more incompetent than the last Conservative government. How wrong we were.

What I find annoying is that people voted for the Labour Party, not because they felt many things needed to be radically changed, but because they were sick of 14 years of chaos, corruption and neglect. They didn't really want anything much different - and that is what they got - basically, more austerity measures and a pandering to people's fears about "foreigners" - eg the warning about a potential "island of strangers".

Given that is what I think most people voted for - nothing radical, a continuance of austerity-type measures (provided they are aimed at others, of course) - Labour's actions are broadly in keeping with maintaining the status quo. I think Labour has a difficult job and I have some sympathy because people voted for them to improve things like proper control over public resources and services. But, unless some controversial measures are taken (like a wealth tax), people on ordinary incomes will find it is they, and not the super-rich (who have doubled their wealth since Covid) that will, as ever, have to pay the price.

Not god, FGS! good

I have to agree with you, Eloethan.

Corbyn is earnestly principled (read Diane Abbot's account of their affair ) and not at all pragmatic. Which makes him inspiring but unfortunately he's a very poor politician. A leader needs to be god at politics.

I have always been a fan of Corbyn and think he was treated disgracefully by just about every media outlet - and by the Labour Party.

I have come to the conclusion, though, that in reality it is only people who pose no threat whatsoever to the rich and powerful who will be allowed to garner public support. The same character assassination tactics will be used to ensure that the status quo remains.

Nellygran

I like Jeremy Corbin but I wish he’d just find a way to work with the Labour Party. This will just make it easier for the dreadful tories to get back in.

Even diehard tories had started fleeing from the tory party last election.
I dont think with a year's distance from the election, that things are much if any better, with them.

MaizieD

Sparklefizz

"Nationalise all banks"? So he is totally ignoring the major concerns of the day.

I think you’re overreacting here. This is just one thing that might be proposed…A one issue party would be a bit of a nonsense, wouldn’t it?

Oh I don’t know, it’s all the Greens have got.

Sparklefizz

"Nationalise all banks"? So he is totally ignoring the major concerns of the day.

I think you’re overreacting here. This is just one thing that might be proposed…A one issue party would be a bit of a nonsense, wouldn’t it?

nightowl

I think both major parties have something to fear, not from Corbyn but from their lack of support amongst the electorate and especially from young people who they need to appeal to in the future. Unless both start listening to people’s fears and anger, instead of trying to placate the very rich and those with vested interests, I think almost anything could happen at the next election
(and no I’m not a ‘Corbynite’ which is a silly term of abuse thrown out randomly at people who are not ‘Blairites’. I’m sure he knows he has absolutely no chance of winning an election - but politics is about more than that).

Precisely, nightowl.

Ah well, I don’t know why people are getting their knickers in a twist, they’ve been suggesting JC should leave and start his own party for years, so they should be happy he has

No knicker twisting here nightowl.

From what I can see, most Labour supporters are happy that Corbyn has started his own party.

I would imagine KS is particularly happy

I think both major parties have something to fear, not from Corbyn but from their lack of support amongst the electorate and especially from young people who they need to appeal to in the future. Unless both start listening to people’s fears and anger, instead of trying to placate the very rich and those with vested interests, I think almost anything could happen at the next election
(and no I’m not a ‘Corbynite’ which is a silly term of abuse thrown out randomly at people who are not ‘Blairites’. I’m sure he knows he has absolutely no chance of winning an election - but politics is about more than that).

Well, what could possibly go wrong with Jeremy Corbyn and a ruthlessly unapologetic socialist platform? I imagine Mr Farage will have to amend his platform in an attempt to beat the FibbyMcFibface socialists in an election
The Conservatives and Labour might combine as they quake in fear, knowing they’re doomed by the brave new world of Corbyn

"Nationalise all banks"? So he is totally ignoring the major concerns of the day.

Jeremy Corbyn’s new party will campaign to nationalise all banks, one of its organisers has said.

Pamela Fitzpatrick, a socialist campaigner and confidante of Mr Corbyn, said the party would campaign on a “ruthless” and “unapologetic” socialist platform, going further than Labour’s “pretty mild” 2019 manifesto.

Nellygran

I like Jeremy Corbin but I wish he’d just find a way to work with the Labour Party. This will just make it easier for the dreadful tories to get back in.

Well, he is one of the most personally incompetent people I have ever seen in politics. Even when nominally a member of the Labour party he seemed to vote against it more often than he voted with it

If his launching of his new party this week is an example of his new party will be run, he is clearly aiming at still higher levels of incompetence.

It shows how incompetent politicians today are, that anyone should think that jeremy Corbyn has the makings of a leader.

FibbyMcFibFace
😂😂😂

Aw, bless him, we can't take him seriously though, can we!

And - if FibbyMcFibFace too silky as a name for the nameless new party?
I acknowledge Mr C claims sainthood on the honesty front but I’m not convinced

Oreo

I think he may be anti everything that smacks of establishment and authority.He’s like the character in Rebel Without A Cause who when asked at the end of the film what he’s against, says
‘Whaddya got?’

Oreo - one of those occasions when I 👏👏👏👏your comment

But the Labour Party have made it clear they don’t wish to work with Jeremy Corbyn Nellygran, KS has chucked him out for heaven’s sake. There’s no room for socialists in this version of the LP.

Ah well, I don’t know why people are getting their knickers in a twist, they’ve been suggesting JC should leave and start his own party for years, so they should be happy he has.