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King Charles and his gardening staff

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Eloethan Sat 26-Jul-25 15:00:18

I have read that 11 out of 12 of Charles's gardening staff have resigned from their jobs in recent years, citing poor pay, over work and Charles's constant criticisms.

I find it disgusting that these workers were apparently on low pay and have felt the need to leave their positions because they feel overworked and under valued .

Charles - a man who has never held down a normal job or had the financial pressures of ordinary people - not such a benign character as we are encouraged to believe it seems.

Needless to say, I am not a fan of royalty so no doubt I will be accused of bias but this sort of high-handed behaviour infuriates me.

Allira Mon 28-Jul-25 16:54:49

Norah

silverlining48

Charles has never had to worry about the cost of anything, it’s all provided , mostly by us. The price of a monarchy.

As for those who retire at 55 they can get another job or not depending on their circumstances. Perhaps charity work, hobbies, golf or do lunch or if finances allow, go on lots of holidays.
World and oyster comes to mind.

Monarchy does come at a price, no worry for the Monarch. However, constitutional monarchy is a choice which we live with.

As to retiring at 55, nobody I know has been forced out that young.

Not forced out

I wonder how much you understand about the Forces? The thing is, expertise gained during years of service is much sought after in Civvy Street so ex-Forces personnel usually go on to second careers. My DH worked then until 67 and could have carried on but decided not to.

Charles has a third career at an age most people are retired.

I do know a few people who retired at 55 - bank managers etc but perhaps not so much now. Police officers used to retire at 48.

Allira Mon 28-Jul-25 16:56:02

I despair at some of the misconceptions I read on here sometimes.

😫

suelld Mon 28-Jul-25 17:04:25

I have a friend who knows a long time staff member at Highgrove who thinks Charles is wonderful and a great employer. Probably best to get ALL sides of the story first?

leeds22 Mon 28-Jul-25 17:08:06

I don’t imagine the king actually organises the salary scales for his staff but maybe he should investigate the situation. It sounds as though his management staff are doing a poor job. Many years ago DH worked with the brother of a Lord, lived on the estate for free etc. Colleagues were discussing getting a mortgage and he asked what they were talking about. Some people live in guilded cages.

suelld Mon 28-Jul-25 17:17:20

Charles’ work life short? He’s still working! Being a Prince and now a King is hard work. Sure, they have staff to do all those things we worry about, but they are ‘on display’ 24/7 . Have to been seen well groomed and to attention on ‘normal’ days and regularly have state occasions to attend that must be exhausting! To have to sit for hours talking to complete strangers in various counties, when all they’d like to do is have a boiled egg and soldiers and watch a film. MOST of the time they have had to behave their whole,e lives and do ‘ good’ things ( no wonder one or two ‘ kick over the traces occasionally) … I wouldn’t want that JOB … would you?

Allira Mon 28-Jul-25 17:28:05

Well said, sue11d

I wouldn’t want that JOB … would you?
Nor me!

silverlining48 Mon 28-Jul-25 17:38:18

Would I want that job?
The money, the castles, being driven around in a nice car and not an old fiesta woukd be a nice change, especially as I don’t like driving any more , everyone bowing and scraping might be odd but I could probably get used to it.
Everything has its drawbacks not having to worry about money is a big plus so in the scheme of things I would be willing to give it a try if he wants to step aside. smile

Allira Mon 28-Jul-25 17:39:22

I wouldn't!!

Not for all the castles in the country.

letmein Mon 28-Jul-25 17:40:31

Agree 100% eloethan

Anniebach Mon 28-Jul-25 17:42:22

Such an easy life, castles and palaces, much staff, no matter if
one sneezes it with make the front page, as will having big ears,
wearing spectacles, a child will have school exams published but not by the schools. Remember in public keep smiling but
not if a solemn occasion, dating ? great fun, your date will have the press searching for ancestors, will know or want to know
everything, if they don’t they will invent from “sources close to” who wish to remain anonymous

Allira Mon 28-Jul-25 17:43:19

letmein

Agree 100% eloethan

So another one who doesn't think serving in the Armed Forces is normal?

I do despair of Gransnet sometimes.

Frogoet Mon 28-Jul-25 17:49:44

I live near Sandringham and if you come to visit you will see it has been turned into a money spinning circus. Crazy golf. Huge concerts where you are charged exorbitantly for a deck chair at the back.
Even the Lord of the manor used to give kindle to the serfs. We locals have to pay to walk in the woods. Even local children can only play in the play area if parents can afford a pass. He is not benign and I’ve never seen him showing any emotion except superciliousness. You should see the star of the estate’s tied cottages at Anmer. Now rented out they are tatty where you can’t see. I could go on for hours.
Meanwhile the Royals take their family to every elite event. Roll on a Republic!

silverlining48 Mon 28-Jul-25 17:53:11

I had a quick look and Charles can go weeks with only one or two appointments. That’s ok, he’s not on the go everyday and has plenty of down time, so won’t be deprived of boiled eggs and soldiers, and the 📺

Allira Mon 28-Jul-25 17:56:30

There is a difference between Crazy golf and Mini golf.
Should concerts be free?
How many people do you allow to tramp through your grounds, sorry, garden?
Are you needing kindling now your WFA has been stopped? If so, help is available, I think.

Skodadoda Mon 28-Jul-25 17:58:50

merlotgran

Apparently he reprimanded one of the gardeners for allowing ragwort to grow near the outdoor swimming pool.
Any employer would have done exactly the same, wealthy or otherwise.
I suspect much of this has been blown out of proportion.

Although ragwort is toxic for horses, ‘It supports a wide variety of insects, many nationally rare or scarce, including 30 which are entirely reliant on ragwort. It is an extremely important source of nectar and pollen for many species including butterflies and bees. It's also an essential foodplant for the cinnabar moth caterpillar.’
I don’t suppose many horses are allowed near his swimming pool!

Allira Mon 28-Jul-25 17:58:58

Explore Sandringham Royal Parkland by foot, by bike, or with your four-legged friends. Younger visitors can burn off some energy at our large Children’s Play Area – both are open and free to access all year round.

So manywhoppers misconceptions posted on Gransnet these days!!
If the truth doesn't make a good story, then embellish it 😁

woodenspoon Mon 28-Jul-25 17:59:38

silverlining48

I had a quick look and Charles can go weeks with only one or two appointments. That’s ok, he’s not on the go everyday and has plenty of down time, so won’t be deprived of boiled eggs and soldiers, and the 📺

I suppose if you had cancer and were having treatment you’d be working full time then silverlining48?

Allira Mon 28-Jul-25 18:02:34

Sandringham’s fab Children's Play Area is set amongst the trees in the Parkland. It features structures inspired by landmarks on and around the Estate. Your kids can enjoy multi-level play in the 26ft tall tower inspired by the water tower at Appleton, with high-level walkways, sand play, zip wires, swings and slides all nestled in nature.
the children’s play area can be accessed easily from our car parks in the Royal Parkland. The main part of the children’s play area is suitable for children ages 5-12yrs.
It is open daily from dawn - dusk and is free to visit. Tickets will be needed if you want to visit Sandringham itself.

It looks great!!

Of course, if it wasn't open to the public, free of charge, then there would be accusations of elitism.

Allira Mon 28-Jul-25 18:05:23

woodenspoon

silverlining48

I had a quick look and Charles can go weeks with only one or two appointments. That’s ok, he’s not on the go everyday and has plenty of down time, so won’t be deprived of boiled eggs and soldiers, and the 📺

I suppose if you had cancer and were having treatment you’d be working full time then silverlining48?

Another good point woodenspoon.

It's no good being [envious] of others because we have no idea what their lives are really like.
At least we had a choice of our paths in life.

silverlining48 Mon 28-Jul-25 18:07:54

Maybe as we are back to ragwort this somewhat circular thread might end.

My comments have been slightly tongue in cheek but I would still be up to sample some of the high life.
One is the same age as Charles so one ought to cope. At least one won’t have to wait in line for the 7 million odd patients ahead of one should one require an operation.

escaped Mon 28-Jul-25 18:09:24

I don’t suppose many horses are allowed near his swimming pool!
Maybe posh horses get to do hydrotherapy in the pool?

butterandjam Mon 28-Jul-25 18:11:46

silverlining48

That’s quite a staff turnover though. 11 out of 12.

Famous gardens, like professional kitchens, often have a very high turnover of staff. That's been my experience working in both (many years volunteer gardener for National Trust at a high profile garden. By my tenth year, I'd worked there longer that any of the paid gardeners. We'd had three Head Gardeners.

. Lots of reasons. Professional kitchens are a very high-stress working environment; Hot, long hours, unsocial shifts, tempers can run high.

Professional gardening also has stresses. It's not all roses and birdsong on a sunny day. Highgrove garden has 40,000 visitors a year. That is a lot of wear and tear on the garden (that it wasn't originally laid out for) , and some, on the staff
trying to get the work done and answer questions and be polite whatever the provocation.*. Gardening for a wealthy owner (especially one who is often away at other homes, abroad etc) can also be very frustrating. Almost every aspect of gardening, operates on a longterm plan. Yet the absent owner wants everything to be perfect on the day he arrives. Even though there's recently been no rain or too much rain; that spring was very early or there was a late frost in June . So the planned program for that year is not running on time. Someone I know gardens for an American millionaire who has properties all over the world and bottomless pockets. He knows nothing about plants, or gardening in the UK climate; but he expects his UK garden to be perfect when he turns up once a year. He never spends more than 2 weeks in uk per year. The rest of the year, the house is unoccupied and the garden unseen and the gardener working alone. I said to the gardener; "Sounds like the job from heaven" , he replied " I thought that. It isn't; just a different set of problems. ".


The payrates for professional gardeners are not high; but the job often comes with a free house and use of vehicle. The member of staff is paying no rent, no insurance, not responsible for upkeep and repairs. Those are a huge tax free perk of the job and to my certain knowledge, many head gardeners live in the free "house with the job" and in addition, are buying a private home which they let out until they retire.

People think of Highgrove as the private garden of a very keen and knowledgeable gardener who's given free rein to his imagination. But in fact it belongs to the Duchy of Cornwall, which is no longer Charles's title. It's William's. Charles now rents it. It's now managed for the Kings Trust whose remit includes the training of young people into work skills. This means a steady through-put of trainees; some of whom with "Highgrove Trained" glowing on their CV then move on to permanent jobs elsewhere; and some of whom leave because they find out gardening is not the life for them. So yes, there is a turnover, and green trainees are at the bottom of the national pay scale. And no doubt some longterm staff find gardening Highgrove has changed a lot or don't see eye to eye with the new management and can take their pick of jobs elsewhere.

Lathyrus3 Mon 28-Jul-25 18:12:48

silverlining48

I had a quick look and Charles can go weeks with only one or two appointments. That’s ok, he’s not on the go everyday and has plenty of down time, so won’t be deprived of boiled eggs and soldiers, and the 📺

Where were you looking?

I had a look at the Court Circular for last week and saw many instances of ‘appointments”.

On the 21st of July he had four in one day as well as a walkabout to meet the public. On the go from morning to evening.

Granted he did then seem to have a day off the next day.

Still, I expect some people will believe you, if the want to.

silverlining48 Mon 28-Jul-25 18:15:11

The figures I quoted were before the king had his cancer diagnosis. I know about cancer as my dh and my dd have both had cancer in recent years.

Lathyrus3 Mon 28-Jul-25 18:18:21

So where did you get those?