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King Charles and his gardening staff

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Eloethan Sat 26-Jul-25 15:00:18

I have read that 11 out of 12 of Charles's gardening staff have resigned from their jobs in recent years, citing poor pay, over work and Charles's constant criticisms.

I find it disgusting that these workers were apparently on low pay and have felt the need to leave their positions because they feel overworked and under valued .

Charles - a man who has never held down a normal job or had the financial pressures of ordinary people - not such a benign character as we are encouraged to believe it seems.

Needless to say, I am not a fan of royalty so no doubt I will be accused of bias but this sort of high-handed behaviour infuriates me.

Allira Tue 29-Jul-25 11:37:10

Oh dear!

It's really rather sad, isn't it.

Elegran Tue 29-Jul-25 11:50:27

escaped

^The Duke of Cornwall shall not be liable to the Payment of Compensation for Damage to be done by any Lessee or other Person in or about any such searching or working for Mines or Minerals under the Authority of this Act as aforesaid.^ Act 1844

The mining, if it happens,(a company has been granted a licence to explore re-opening an old tin mine) would be done under licence by the mining company. Surely the liability for any damage to anyone or anything would fall on whoever is doing the mining and getting the profit from it?

Lilyflower Tue 29-Jul-25 11:55:25

Orf with their 'eads!

Elegran Tue 29-Jul-25 11:59:22

I suspect many people think that Charles is still Duke of Cornwall - no, that is now William.

The Duchy was first created centuries ago, partly to give the heir to the throne a private income until he succeeded his father, (making it less likely that he would hasten his father's demise to get his hands on the treasury) and partly to give him something responsible to do and to cut his management teeth on, and get some experience of the problems of running a large estate and making it pay, before he was let loose on a whole kingdom.

M0nica Tue 29-Jul-25 15:06:59

Allira

I thought the Cornish coast was granite?

Or are these china clay slips?

Only the Penzance penninsula is granite. Most of the coast is Devonian slate.

An interesting article explaining Cornwall's geology can be found here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_Cornwall

Allira Tue 29-Jul-25 15:12:11

M0nica

Allira

I thought the Cornish coast was granite?

Or are these china clay slips?

Only the Penzance penninsula is granite. Most of the coast is Devonian slate.

An interesting article explaining Cornwall's geology can be found here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_Cornwall

Devonian slate cliffs are prone to land slips due to natural phenomena but what this has to do with the Duchy, I'm not sure.

Allira Tue 29-Jul-25 15:13:07

Elegran

I suspect many people think that Charles is still Duke of Cornwall - no, that is now William.

The Duchy was first created centuries ago, partly to give the heir to the throne a private income until he succeeded his father, (making it less likely that he would hasten his father's demise to get his hands on the treasury) and partly to give him something responsible to do and to cut his management teeth on, and get some experience of the problems of running a large estate and making it pay, before he was let loose on a whole kingdom.

I suspect many people think that Charles is still Duke of Cornwall - no, that is now William.

Surely not, Elegran 😯

Although .....

escaped Tue 29-Jul-25 15:18:13

Maybe the poster was talking about the old tin and copper mines on the coast? But they're not used by the Duchy. I'm confused.

Allira Tue 29-Jul-25 15:30:55

I think it's an urban myth!

Elegran Tue 29-Jul-25 17:59:27

Allira - the Duchy itself seems to think so -
"The Black Prince (Edward of Woodstock) became the first Duke of Cornwall aged just seven years old, when the estate was created out of the former Earldom of Cornwall by King Edward III in 1337. The estate is passed down to the next male heir to the British throne.
The current Duke is His Royal Highness The Prince of Wales, Prince William. Her Royal Highness The Princess of Wales, holds the title of Duchess of Cornwall.
From duchyofcornwall.org/page/about-us/

Though you may have been saying "Surely not . . . . " to the Prince of Wales hastening his father's demise. (I wasn't forecasting that of Wililam.)

Elegran Tue 29-Jul-25 18:05:27

escaped

Maybe the poster was talking about the old tin and copper mines on the coast? But they're not used by the Duchy. I'm confused.

She may have been talking about the fact that a mining company have applied for and received a licence from the Duchy to investigate the possibility of reopening tin mines, which the locals are apprehensive about. One is called Wheal Vhor. www.cornishtin.uk/news/cornish-tin-news-update-25-june-2024

Frogoet Tue 29-Jul-25 19:12:57

Must have broken some rule when I said the problem is with having Royals who all seem to be out of touch and supercilious. Except possibly the one who decided such a life was not for him. It wasn’t posted or was deleted. ‘Happy’ for them to be tyrannical but not at our expense. I’m sure there are many imperious employers of gardeners but they are entirely responsible for wages.
We have always contributed vast sums to their coffers.
What a waste!

Allira Tue 29-Jul-25 20:53:11

Not a waste.

We have to have a Head of State and, looking at others around the world, the Royal Family is good value for the pittance we each pay for them.

Allira Tue 29-Jul-25 20:55:04

Elegran

escaped

Maybe the poster was talking about the old tin and copper mines on the coast? But they're not used by the Duchy. I'm confused.

She may have been talking about the fact that a mining company have applied for and received a licence from the Duchy to investigate the possibility of reopening tin mines, which the locals are apprehensive about. One is called Wheal Vhor. www.cornishtin.uk/news/cornish-tin-news-update-25-june-2024

I suppose we can carry on importing everything we need or look at producing what we need ourselves, if we have the skills and resources.

Sussexborn Wed 30-Jul-25 02:20:54

Whitewavemark2

I am sad to read this.

I spent a day at Highbury this week and it was absolutely beautiful. It was exactly how I would have my garden if I had the wherewithal.

However, I understand that Charles does not own it. It was purchased by the Duchy of Cornwall, which I assume is run by a trust with William as CEO?

Wages for all staff both indoor and outdoor will I guess be employed by the Duchy, and I understand that salaries are similar to equivalent rank in the civil service.

As for Charles irritation. Yes, I suspect that to be correct, as we have witnessed it for ourselves. It is a flaw in his character, and is not comfortable for those who deal with him - including his wife! But those without fault etc.

King Charles gets grumpy occasionally and doesn’t want his dogs to be poisoned! Shock horror. No doubt the real truth will be something and nothing and the anti monarchists can take their claws out until the next rumour appears.

nanna8 Wed 30-Jul-25 03:53:39

Well I like King Charles and he is worth his weight in gold for all the tourists that come because there is an old fashioned monarchy. I like him as the King of the UK but not so much Australia because we really don’t identify with the UK these days ( except me who was born there maybe) Unfortunately there is absolutely no one suitable here as a head of state, they are a rabble just as your government seem to be just now.

Anniebach Wed 30-Jul-25 04:26:11

I have met The King several times over his years as Prince of Wales, he is a deeply caring person and has a great sense of
humour . He was only 20 when he was made Prince of Wales,
there was some anger in Wales , not personal, it was against the
English. Charles became very popular here .
When one thinks of the PM’s chosen , choices of presidents!

Allsorts Wed 30-Jul-25 06:29:01

He aloe are to be deeply dating but not to his staff. When no one is left and the gardens not pristine he will have to start to wake up. Perhaps move to an apartment without a huge garden. No excuse for not treating people with respect.

Allsorts Wed 30-Jul-25 06:29:41

Should read, appears to be deeply caring.

Calendargirl Wed 30-Jul-25 06:58:44

When no one is left and the gardens not pristine

Not going to happen. There will always be plenty of gardeners willing to work for the King.

Alan Titchmarsh is a good friend….

Anniebach Wed 30-Jul-25 07:46:19

Quote Allsorts Wed 30-Jul-25 06:29:01
He aloe are to be deeply dating but not to his staff. When no one is left and the gardens not pristine he will have to start to wake up. Perhaps move to an apartment without a huge garden. No excuse for not treating people with respect.

The King bought Highgrove in 1980, it has taken until 2025
for a gardener to complain , only 45 years

suelld Thu 31-Jul-25 15:57:40

Anniebach

When meeting people, attending an event, giving an address
surely he has to gain knowledge of who, what and why before hand

Absolutely … and as far as I’ve seen he’s pretty good at remembering who’s who and what’s what. They run their businesses too… yes I’m sure they have Managers and staff who do it but I’m sure they oversee everything.
Just compare his and Camilla’s Charity work in comparison to the ‘me, me, me, and grab all I can, get everyone’s country and names wrong ‘ despot who runs the USA! Be grateful for who we have!!

escaped Thu 31-Jul-25 17:03:31

Anniebach

Quote Allsorts Wed 30-Jul-25 06:29:01
He aloe are to be deeply dating but not to his staff. When no one is left and the gardens not pristine he will have to start to wake up. Perhaps move to an apartment without a huge garden. No excuse for not treating people with respect.

The King bought Highgrove in 1980, it has taken until 2025
for a gardener to complain , only 45 years

I thought the property was actually bought by The Duchy of Cornwall, and that Charles was the lifetime tenant?

Allira Thu 31-Jul-25 17:18:25

Sussexborn

Whitewavemark2

I am sad to read this.

I spent a day at Highbury this week and it was absolutely beautiful. It was exactly how I would have my garden if I had the wherewithal.

However, I understand that Charles does not own it. It was purchased by the Duchy of Cornwall, which I assume is run by a trust with William as CEO?

Wages for all staff both indoor and outdoor will I guess be employed by the Duchy, and I understand that salaries are similar to equivalent rank in the civil service.

As for Charles irritation. Yes, I suspect that to be correct, as we have witnessed it for ourselves. It is a flaw in his character, and is not comfortable for those who deal with him - including his wife! But those without fault etc.

King Charles gets grumpy occasionally and doesn’t want his dogs to be poisoned! Shock horror. No doubt the real truth will be something and nothing and the anti monarchists can take their claws out until the next rumour appears.

I'm not sure of it's a flaw in his character, rather that he has exacting standards for himself and expects the same of others.

Perhaps it's his RN training!!
😀

Casdon Thu 31-Jul-25 17:34:40

escaped

Anniebach

Quote Allsorts Wed 30-Jul-25 06:29:01
He aloe are to be deeply dating but not to his staff. When no one is left and the gardens not pristine he will have to start to wake up. Perhaps move to an apartment without a huge garden. No excuse for not treating people with respect.

The King bought Highgrove in 1980, it has taken until 2025
for a gardener to complain , only 45 years

I thought the property was actually bought by The Duchy of Cornwall, and that Charles was the lifetime tenant?

It’s more complicated, I was reading about it the other week, the garden is managed separately to the house, which I can understand the reason for, because the king wants it preserved for posterity. I’ve been too, a couple of years ago, and it is not just lovely, but interesting, particularly the stumpery.
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/king-charles-aide-of-21-years-explains-why-prince-william-will-snub-a-key-duty-he-s-got-his/ar-AA1HUkNm?apiversion=v2&noservercache=1&domshim=1&renderwebcomponents=1&wcseo=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1