So what do GNs think of Starmer’s decision to recognise Palestine as a state?

And what does it mean if another Arab country takes over governance? Does Gaza then become part of that country but with its land base in Israel? A few questions here. In any event, Hamas must go and not return.

Yes time will tell.

Time will tell Smileless2012
But which Arab country is likely to want any involvement?

If Israel's stated position is that it does not want to remain in Gaza IMO Israel is lying.

Europe and the USA have been vocal about Israel. It’s up to Israel now to evict Hamas from Gaza and ensure a stable government takes over. Good plan on paper but I can’t think which Arab country will agree to be involved in this plan. Israel’s stated position is that it does not want to remain in Gaza .

Smileless2012

Does that mean that Europe and the USA should watch the persecution of Palestinians today?

Looks like it Smileless, maybe for some this is a sickening form of payback.

Does that mean that Europe and the USA should watch the persecution of Palestinians today?

Europe and USA watched the persecution of Jews in the 30’s
& 40’s

I find the question of why this conflict above others is the focus of attention in Europe and the USA not to be a distraction. It’s raising very uncomfortable feelings and memories of eg the Warsaw Ghetto, the movement of Jewish communities during the reign of the third reich and to anti semitism since the beginning of time.
Im not comparing the holocaust with the actions of the Israeli government or the illegal settlers. It’s difficult though, not to see parallels. Then I reflect on 7/10 and accept retaliation inevitable. I believe it’s gone too far, is making a dreadful situation worse.
We need peace makers

That’s a pretty odd comment - I would think that there’s a very unfortunate connection between jihadists and Hamas……

Babs03

Terrible case in Nigeria.
And a lamentable case of whataboutery.
If someone wants to start a new thread by all means do.

Yes

Terrible case in Nigeria.
And a lamentable case of whataboutery.
If someone wants to start a new thread by all means do.

Genocide Watch reports 62,000 Christians killed in Nigeria by jihadists since 2000. Still ongoing.

Again it has been posted that my information/facts are wrong.

OK please supply the evidence, I will at some point look into any evidence and if it's correct I will hold my hands and say sorry I got it wrong. Apart from the post regarding the amount of food into Gaza which appears to be different from other information I have seen (I will check it out later) no one has given me any evidence.

To StoneofDestiny - I said Israel have a right to defend their population and their country. Provided me with any evidence that the PLO, Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah etc have said that Israel have a legal right to be there and that they don't want to wipe them from the face of the earth?

Also why is there hardly any news about the suffering in Yemen, and the thousands of Christians that are being killed in Nigera?

Quote Mamie Thu 07-Aug-25 18:12:36
I fear Annie that you are not watching or listening to the multiple, reports and images of suffering and starvation in Gaza that are obvious to many of us.
In our nearest town many of of the Polish Jewish families were rounded up and sent to concentration camps, so understanding of the Holocaust is very real.
As far as I am concerned the suffering of babies, children and families is abhorrent, no matter what their country, colour or creed.

All suffering is abhorrent, in war one death is one too many

I fear Annie that you are not watching or listening to the multiple, reports and images of suffering and starvation in Gaza that are obvious to many of us.
In our nearest town many of of the Polish Jewish families were rounded up and sent to concentration camps, so understanding of the Holocaust is very real.
As far as I am concerned the suffering of babies, children and families is abhorrent, no matter what their country, colour or creed.

Quote Mamie Thu 07-Aug-25 17:34:55
Denying the starvation of people in Gaza is similar to those who deny the Holocaust. The evidence for both is clear for those who are prepared to watch, listen, read, evaluate and understand,

I saw photographs and newsreels of The Holocaust, I have seen
2 photographs of children who suffered horrible physical illnesses and one of a Hostage who definitely has been starved to the point of death

I feel the same about the holocaust and the genocide in Gaza. It makes me sick to my stomach.
You really aren’t the only one with feelings Annie.

Denying the starvation of people in Gaza is similar to those who deny the Holocaust. The evidence for both is clear for those who are prepared to watch, listen, read, evaluate and understand,

Dear God, the last sentence, I feel sick

Comparing the war in Gaza with The Holocaust is denying the
Holocaust

total, six million Jewish men, women, and children were murdered by the Nazi German regime and its allies and collaborators. This genocide is now known as the Holocaust. Antisemitism was at the foundation of the Holocaust. Antisemitism, the hatred of or prejudice against Jews, was a basic tenet of Nazi ideology. This prejudice was also widespread throughout Europe.

Whitewavemark2

The parallel’s are alarming.

Indeed.
I thought the same thing.

I am completely lost on this one….

Now Gaza is compared to The Holocaust?

??????