BBC - Violent Channel smuggling gang's French and UK network

Casdon

Primrose53

Casdon

Primrose53

So the BBC paid one of the people smugglers £1200 to access the camp!

Patrick Christys is proud to report that he paid nothing on either occasion he went to the camp.
He has also said that their footage was good though.

There is no comparison between the investigations either. Grudgingly you must admit that the BBC investigation was better - unless you’d rather choke on your tea.

Nasty.
I did actually say credit was given to BBC by PC.

The constant bigging up of GB News and everything about it is wearisome when it comes to this sort of statement, because it’s not rooted in fact.

It feels like banging on the old tin drum trying to find a factoid that bigs up GB news.

Look, GB has a lot going for it, and a lot of people enjoy the chat and everyday programmes.

But why chose this particular issue to try and "defend" GB news on? Clearly the BBC on this and a number of other major issues has the person power, the reporters, the investigative journalism to do what GB cannot do and isnt really diseginea to do.

GB news is more like an intelligent and far more complex version of the DM.

(Everytime I pop into see Mrs Next door, she's in the garden reading the DM and I see the oh so predictable headlines on the issues of the day. Not a shred of original thinking.

Facts? People want facts?

Facts are so last year.

Why bother with facts when conspiracy theories, rumour mongering and blatant lies are so much more interesting?

Primrose53

Casdon

Primrose53

So the BBC paid one of the people smugglers £1200 to access the camp!

Patrick Christys is proud to report that he paid nothing on either occasion he went to the camp.
He has also said that their footage was good though.

There is no comparison between the investigations either. Grudgingly you must admit that the BBC investigation was better - unless you’d rather choke on your tea.

Nasty.
I did actually say credit was given to BBC by PC.

The constant bigging up of GB News and everything about it is wearisome when it comes to this sort of statement, because it’s not rooted in fact.

Skydancer

Delene100

My question, why are the French not manning points of entry into France. If they didn't let them in, there would be no migrants queuing up to get to the UK.

Good point.

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at these posts. 😂/😥
I’ll opt for both.

Delene100

My question, why are the French not manning points of entry into France. If they didn't let them in, there would be no migrants queuing up to get to the UK.

france isn't an island, it has 1000 + miles of border anyone can walk across without needing people smugglers, dinghies, much navigational skill. But also without fisk of drowning.

thst's why the Channel crossings are easier to police and why it's seen as a priority, because of a) the criminal activithy as migrants across continetns can't bring a channel-worthy boat with them b) there are only certain points viable for the crossing c) the risk to life of people persuaded for whatever reaon that they need to get to the UK

Casdon

Primrose53

So the BBC paid one of the people smugglers £1200 to access the camp!

Patrick Christys is proud to report that he paid nothing on either occasion he went to the camp.
He has also said that their footage was good though.

There is no comparison between the investigations either. Grudgingly you must admit that the BBC investigation was better - unless you’d rather choke on your tea.

Nasty.
I did actually say credit was given to BBC by PC.

Primrose53

So the BBC paid one of the people smugglers £1200 to access the camp!

Patrick Christys is proud to report that he paid nothing on either occasion he went to the camp.
He has also said that their footage was good though.

There is no comparison between the investigations either. Grudgingly you must admit that the BBC investigation was better - unless you’d rather choke on your tea.

petra

escaped

So can anyone explain.....
Where are these boats being manufactured their hundreds? For every boat that gets across the channel, plus every boat that is punctured, there needs to be some jolly big outfit somewhere producing them.

The inflatables are made in China and come across the Turkish/Bulgaria border.
There has always been a lot of corruption there but a while ago a lorry full of the goods were intercepted.
A few border guards weren’t happy 😂

What happens to all these boats? Can they be recycled or are they adding to the piles of rubbish polluting this planet?

Are you calling the BBC investigative team amateur sleuths just trying to raise their profile?

It never ceases to amaze me how much investigative journalists can discover when the authorities often fail to find out what is going on.

Delene100

My question, why are the French not manning points of entry into France. If they didn't let them in, there would be no migrants queuing up to get to the UK.

Good point.

So the BBC paid one of the people smugglers £1200 to access the camp!

Patrick Christys is proud to report that he paid nothing on either occasion he went to the camp.
He has also said that their footage was good though.

Casdon

That’s not a worry Oreo, the deal is specifically based on equal numbers, so it one for one.

In theory……

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Rwanda anyone? Bibby Stockholm (try again).
A convincing deterrent of SOME sort anyway. Please. Someone. Anyone.

Tell you what, ‘smash the gangs’ Yvette Cooper won’t get re-elected. I’d put good money on that outcome….

I thought you said you were a realist?

That’s not a worry Oreo, the deal is specifically based on equal numbers, so it one for one.

The worry with this deal is that in practice we get the migrants from France but fail dismally to get any migrants sent back there due to red tape and constant appeals.

StripeyGran

Oh dear Primrose, what did you say?

Amateur sleuths cause a huge number of problems. And full on racists like Yaxley Lennon and his mob threaten trials.

Leave it to professionals, instead of using human misery and chaos to raise your profile.

She probably spoke some sense.

Are you calling the BBC investigative team amateur sleuths just trying to raise their profile?

What a shambolic ‘treaty’ Starmer has struck with Macron. In the Daily Mail just now:

“Labour’s migrant returns deal with France has descended into farce as a minister appeared to contradict the terms of a new treaty.

Cabinet minister Lisa Nandy said small boat migrants sent back under the deal would see their human rights claims heard after being sent back to France.

However, it later emerged that some types of human rights cases would, in fact, block the Home Office from being able to remove migrants in the first place.”

growstuff

escaped

petra

escaped

So can anyone explain.....
Where are these boats being manufactured their hundreds? For every boat that gets across the channel, plus every boat that is punctured, there needs to be some jolly big outfit somewhere producing them.

The inflatables are made in China and come across the Turkish/Bulgaria border.
There has always been a lot of corruption there but a while ago a lorry full of the goods were intercepted.
A few border guards weren’t happy 😂

Right. And then how do they travel up the A25 to Dunkerque without being noticed? Hundreds of them?

In the back of a lorry, I would imagine. I don't know how much space a deflated dinghy takes up.

Here’s the back of a lorry.
They will have been shrink wrapped.

Rwanda anyone? Bibby Stockholm (try again).
A convincing deterrent of SOME sort anyway. Please. Someone. Anyone.

Tell you what, ‘smash the gangs’ Yvette Cooper won’t get re-elected. I’d put good money on that outcome….

growstuff
Yes, that’s the one. Everyone in Bulgaria and surrounding countries know who runs Bulgaria. It’s not the elected members of parliament 😉
This is what our services are dealing with.

Maybe they'll send the failed asylum seekers back to their neighbours Italy or Spain?

Surely they are being helpful. We re sending them people who are failed asylum seekers, who cannot be directly deported back to their own countries by the UK. They are sending us people who are likely to be accepted as asylum seekers anyway because they have family here.

Sorry - they can cut out

I don't blame them at all, but they cannot out all the "aren't we being helpful" narrative.

escaped

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Because I’m a realist?

Okay. Let’s be even handed here growstuff.
Shall we both review the numbers in say, 3 months?

😂😂😂

In the meantits costing (conservative estimate) £6million a day.

We must need our bumps feeling.

If the new scheme ever works, it certainly won't be thanks to France. They're paying nothing towards it again, not even a cent.

To be honest, why should they? It's not their problem if people want to leave their country.