‘Palestine Action’ marchers - arrests today.

Meanwhile in Gaza, five more people have died from malnutrition in the past 24 hours, including one child, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.
This brings the total number of malnutrition deaths to 222, including 101 children, the health ministry said.
The UN's humanitarian agency said on Friday that the amount of aid entering Gaza continues to be "far below the minimum required to meet people's immense needs". Last month, UN-backed global food security experts warned the "worst-case scenario of famine is currently playing out".
Israel has continued to deny there is starvation in Gaza and has accused UN agencies of not picking up aid at the borders and delivering it.
The UN's humanitarian agency has said it continues to see impediments and delays as it tries to collect aid from Israeli-controlled border zones.

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Allira
It is embarrassing, yes, but the Voyager aircraft were used for evacuations and Atlas aircraft used for air drops of vital food and medical supplies into Gaza.

They should have been looked after. I can't believe people can just walk in to a military site carrying cans of paint.

They did, I can believe it from any supporters of Hamas

Another five journalists have been killed in Gaza. Why? Does the IDF have something to hide?
Protest march in Israel against Netanyahu's continuing war. Are these Israeli protestors 'useful idiots', 'closet anti-semites' or simply anti-war protestors?

AGAA4

I think most of those arrested have been freed but I would think with a warning about next time they will be charged.

My 79 year sil was arrested and released on bail several hours later. Her bail conditions: never again to show to support for PA

She has to report to a London police station in October

If your sil wants to support Palestine there are other groups and she will not be arrested if peaceful.
Not good to go to prison at any age but at 79 it would be very hard.

Anniebach

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Allira
It is embarrassing, yes, but the Voyager aircraft were used for evacuations and Atlas aircraft used for air drops of vital food and medical supplies into Gaza.

They should have been looked after. I can't believe people can just walk in to a military site carrying cans of paint.

They did, I can believe it from any supporters of Hamas

Don't you think valuable military equipment that tax payers have funded should be kept secure? I used to work in a police station and panda cars were better looked after.

They asked for it ! ! ! !

We know nothing of how the people who damaged the planes gained access. I’m making no assumptions about lack of security because there might have been a lapse, or inside support.
I also prefer to avoid victim blaming. The activists committed serious criminal damage, they’re responsible

Unbelievable, the RAF are guilty of damaged to RAF Aircraft ,
suppose any householder is to blame when their house is broken into

They are responsible for security but you know that don't you. Try leaving your doors and windows open and then trying to get your insurance to pay up when you're robbed. You are expected to take responsibility. It doesn't mean the criminals haven't broken the law.

God help us if there's a war.

The people who damaged the planes drove into Brize Norton in darkness on a moped and sprayed red paint from a loaded fire extinguisher into the bowels of the engine.

Quote theworriedwell Tue 12-Aug-25 08:38:36
They are responsible for security but you know that don't you. Try leaving your doors and windows open and then trying to get your insurance to pay up when you're robbed. You are expected to take responsibility. It doesn't mean the criminals haven't broken the law.

God help us if there's a war.

You obviously know far more than I about it, gates etc were left
open but the next question must be by whom ?

Quote eazybee Tue 12-Aug-25 08:44:35
The people who damaged the planes drove into Brize Norton in darkness on a moped and sprayed red paint from a loaded fire extinguisher into the bowels of the engine.

May I ask who disclose this info ?

Iam64

We know nothing of how the people who damaged the planes gained access. I’m making no assumptions about lack of security because there might have been a lapse, or inside support.
I also prefer to avoid victim blaming. The activists committed serious criminal damage, they’re responsible

Well said.

Deflecting the blame from the perpetrator to the victim is a worrying trend, if taken to a conclusion it could be a horrendous thought.

Quote Allira Tue 12-Aug-25 10:48:38
Iam64
We know nothing of how the people who damaged the planes gained access. I’m making no assumptions about lack of security because there might have been a lapse, or inside support.
I also prefer to avoid victim blaming. The activists committed serious criminal damage, they’re responsible
Well said.

Deflecting the blame from the perpetrator to the victim is a worrying trend, if taken to a conclusion it could be a horrendous thought.

I so agree, I find it frightening

Does anyone know why the Greenham common women who took sledgehammers to military planes amongst other serious damage weren’t classed as terrorists?

Whitewavemark2

Does anyone know why the Greenham common women who took sledgehammers to military planes amongst other serious damage weren’t classed as terrorists?

Presumably it was up to the US government as it was their planes?
The difference anyway is that the women weren’t supporting an extreme Muslim group.
We have had enough of those in the UK.

Whitewavemark2

Does anyone know why the Greenham common women who took sledgehammers to military planes amongst other serious damage weren’t classed as terrorists?

In short
They broke the law, but their methods stayed within the realm of civil protest rather than terrorism under the UK’s legal and political definitions of the time. The government preferred to treat them as a public order problem, not a security threat in the same league as the IRA or later Islamist groups.

If you want, I can also contrast this with how modern UK counter-terrorism laws could theoretically reclassify similar protests today — because definitions have broadened since the 1980s, and the picture would be very different now. Would you like me to do that?

ChatGPT

Quote Whitewavemark2 Tue 12-Aug-25 11:19:10
Does anyone know why the Greenham common women who took sledgehammers to military planes amongst other serious damage weren’t classed as terrorists?

What year please ? you compare RAF Aircraft with all that was at Greenham ? Carry on

Maremia

Another five journalists have been killed in Gaza. Why? Does the IDF have something to hide?
Protest march in Israel against Netanyahu's continuing war. Are these Israeli protestors 'useful idiots', 'closet anti-semites' or simply anti-war protestors?

The IDF would wouldn't they! It has much to hide. After Gaza is completely wrecked Israel will have to try to justify what it did.

Some are anti war and a lot simply are worried for the remaining hostages Maremia and they want BN to take a different tack about getting them back.Others are understandably worried about their adult children being called up.

Whitewavemark2

Does anyone know why the Greenham common women who took sledgehammers to military planes amongst other serious damage weren’t classed as terrorists?

I have never heard of that sledgehammer story and can find no trace of it online. Could you please supply your source?

butterandjam Tue 12-Aug-25 12:24:22
Whitewavemark2
Does anyone know why the Greenham common women who took sledgehammers to military planes amongst other serious damage weren’t classed as terrorists?
I have never heard of that sledgehammer story and can find no trace of it online. Could you please supply your source?

I too asked the question and await a reply , I did join the women for a short time , so much fear of nuclear war.

CariadAgain

Why was the group proscribed? We need to know - so that we can judge whether that matches with our collective decision as a nation.

"Because I say so" is a statement that only got used by 1950s parents. One tells adults ones reasoning and gets majority agreement. They havent told us their reasoning - therefore how can we play our part of either agreeing or disagreeing?

We have been told why PA was proscribed ; it's public information recorded in Hansard.

hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-06-23/debates/25062337000014/PalestineActionProscription

MPs in HOC voted in favour of legislation to proscribe group Palestine Action as a terrorist organisation, by 385 votes to 26.

HOL also voted in favour.

Whitewavemark2

Does anyone know why the Greenham common women who took sledgehammers to military planes amongst other serious damage weren’t classed as terrorists?

There is no evidence that they did this.

It was a Peace Camp.