Unfolding Genocide

Completely wrong Babs03 definition of a war can be between different groups within a country.

This isn’t a war, a war occurs between two sovereign states, not one sovereign state against a stateless people imprisoned on a strip of land with no human rights.
This is not a definition of war.

Anniebach

Quote Smileless2012 Thu 28-Aug-25 10:59:13
And I never thought I'd see such blatant and inhumane persecution carried out by Israel after the world declared "Never Again".

Those hollow words were spoken for the Holocaust not a war,
unkind surely to use them to suit oneself

I agree with Smileless, fact is human suffering is human suffering, one cannot be weighed against the other. And phrases coined to remind us never to inflict that kind of suffering on another group of people is particularly apt right now.
No group of people anywhere in the world has the monopoly on human suffering.

Quote Smileless2012 Thu 28-Aug-25 10:59:13
And I never thought I'd see such blatant and inhumane persecution carried out by Israel after the world declared "Never Again".

Those hollow words were spoken for the Holocaust not a war,
unkind surely to use them to suit oneself

It’s about learning to live with your worst enemy.

‘Two wrongs don’t make a right’ is a saying for children.
Israel will have no more Israeli deaths at the hands of extremists from Gaza.
It’s over for them and so is a two state solution.Israel would never be safe from missiles and violent incursions if the State of Palestine was next to it.
They brought it on themselves.

And I never thought I'd see such blatant and inhumane persecution carried out by Israel after the world declared "Never Again".

I never thought I would still see persecution of the descendants of the Holocaust after the world declared “Never Again “

Babs03

Am afraid those supporting Netanyahu and his cronies are complicit in the genocide taking place. And scrabbling around for tidbits of info that blames Hamas or anyone else is not going to cut it anymore.
We all know Hamas did a despicable thing in massacring innocents and are a terrorist organisation still holding Israeli hostages, those who shout loudest in support of the insupportable keep repeating this. We know. But we also know that two wrongs don’t make a right and what Netanyahu is doing right now is not only wrong but breaking so many international laws that quite frankly I have lost count.
It is genocide committed by a first world country with a huge army and weaponry supplied by the US against a third world strip of land populated by powerless starving Palestinian civilians who can’t escape.

Absolutely.

I never thought I would ever see such evil committed by a country who is supposedly an ally of the west.

They are no ally of the rule of law, decency or humanity.

Am afraid those supporting Netanyahu and his cronies are complicit in the genocide taking place. And scrabbling around for tidbits of info that blames Hamas or anyone else is not going to cut it anymore.
We all know Hamas did a despicable thing in massacring innocents and are a terrorist organisation still holding Israeli hostages, those who shout loudest in support of the insupportable keep repeating this. We know. But we also know that two wrongs don’t make a right and what Netanyahu is doing right now is not only wrong but breaking so many international laws that quite frankly I have lost count.
It is genocide committed by a first world country with a huge army and weaponry supplied by the US against a third world strip of land populated by powerless starving Palestinian civilians who can’t escape.

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Bit bemused why my posters haven't come up, will re-try.

ronib

No one is condoning the endless killing in Gaza.

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Yes aid in the sense of a coming together of countries to stop the war and find peace.

ronib

No one is condoning the endless killing in Gaza.

You are asking for aid for Israel.

No one is condoning the endless killing in Gaza.

I don't forget that atrocity ronib as most others don't. It doesn't mean that I can condone the endless killing in Gaza.
Do you believe those people deserve this? Only 8000 of the 63000 killed were Hamas. Many were innocent little children.

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The Oxfam posters I printed out are now out to all Quakers in our county, and I keep a supply for people asking for what I have on my window and offer them

I have not met a single person who is not absolutely appalled by what is happening, and that includes people I would on political points disagree with strongly.

A reminder:
www.oxfam.org.uk/get-involved/campaign-with-oxfam/gaza-palestine-downloadable-campaign-posters/

I'm generally using these two as some aren't quite as understandable: the one with a women and child is very very effective with the "explanation" along side

I don’t believe for one minute that Israel wants to carry on killing Palestinians. How can you forget that over 1200 Israelis were murdered by Hamas?
I believe that Israel now needs to work out solutions which incorporate safe borders so that Palestinians and Israelis can co-exist. Never again must Israel be so threatened by Hamas. AGAA4.

Anniebach

The Pope was applauded by thousands in the Vatican Auditorium ? Surely not true !!!!

Of course it is true.

Don’t you understand that the world is utterly appalled at what is happening.

Of course it is - people have not lost their humanity.

ronib why do you keep asking for help for Israel? They seem to be managing the massacre of the Palestinians quite well with arms aid from the US and others.
Are any Israelis starving with their homes flattened and being moved from one place to another, shot at and killed?
I find it insensitive to ask for aid for Israel.

The Pope was applauded by thousands in the Vatican Auditorium ? Surely not true !!!!

Send in the Papal Guards?

The children become too weak to cry and lie silent - dying slowly and painfully.

Utterly evil bastards

Ten Palestinians including two children have died from starvation in the last 24 hours, health authorities in Gaza said on Wednesday, as Pope Leo XIV demanded that Israel stop its “collective punishment” of the population in the besieged territory.

At least 313 people have died from hunger, including 119 children, since the war in Gaza began and Israel intensified its siege on the Palestinian territory. Last week a UN-backed monitoring body confirmed that Gaza was in the throes of famine and warned that without more aid, increasing numbers of people would lose access to food.

As humanitarian conditions continued to worsen, the pope called for a suspension of hostilities.

“I beg for a permanent ceasefire to be reached, the safe entry of humanitarian aid to be facilitated and humanitarian law to be fully respected,” Leo said. He referred to international law and its “prohibition of collective punishment, indiscriminate use of force and the forced displacement of the population”.

The pope was interrupted twice by applause as he called for a ceasefire in front of thousands of people in the Vatican auditorium.

Well Anniebach even if the Palestinian Bedouins are looting aid trucks, the fault will still be laid at Israel’s door! Hamas used to control the Palestinian Bedouins it seems.
When is the West going to step up? Israel can’t take on Hamas, Bedouins, Iran, Houthis and the rest all by itself.