Sudan, the forgotten war

So many massacres in Sudan right now, particularly one that took place at a maternity hospital of all places, beggars belief such wickedness, Unfortunately nothing new in that country beleaguered by sectarian factions fighting each other. Civil wars are often the most savage, how can all this be stopped ? They really need a peace keeping force but I doubt whether that would be acceptable to people who just want to attack their own citizens. Similar massacres take place in Nigeria every so often usually against the Christian communities, and they hardly receive any coverage.

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What an utterly desperate situation.

Anniebach

Quote SueDonim Thu 14-Aug-25 12:46:42
Sudan pops up in my news fairly regularly. My guess is that people don’t take as much interest because it’s a civil war and the only people who can really bring it to a close are the Sudanese themselves. Ditto for Yemen.

People are starving, people are dying ,

Yes, and it’s every bit as bad and important as every other awful wars taking place across the world.

Giving this thread a bump as Sudan, it’s asylum seekers along with its problems have been raised elsewhere.

Thanks david

Thanks for that link David.

Iam64

David49

I’m just amazed that the war in Sudan is enabled by trading Gold for weapons in Dubai and nobody does anything about it. Other conflicts are in Africa funded in exactly the same way.

What’s the point of international law if it can’t stop that kind of blatant greed.

David, I know nothing about Dubai trading gold for weapons. Will you start a thread.?

Have a look at this link

news-nest.com/2025/05/20/russia-uae-and-the-scramble-for-sudans-stolen-gold-how-a-hidden-trade-fuels-war-and-destabilizes-a-nation/

It s one of many that detail how the civil wars in Sub Saharan Africa are funded. If the UK was enabling a war the way Dubai is there would be a massive public outcry. But it’s Africa and nobody cares anymore.

David49

I’m just amazed that the war in Sudan is enabled by trading Gold for weapons in Dubai and nobody does anything about it. Other conflicts are in Africa funded in exactly the same way.

What’s the point of international law if it can’t stop that kind of blatant greed.

David, I know nothing about Dubai trading gold for weapons. Will you start a thread.?

We pay no attention to Yemen or Myanmar either. We paid no attention to the internal war in Ukraine that was going on before Russia invaded either

ronib

International law doesn’t prohibit the sale of weapons David49.

This is the problem any rebel warlord can buy whatever he needs to start a war.

International law doesn’t prohibit the sale of weapons David49.

I’m just amazed that the war in Sudan is enabled by trading Gold for weapons in Dubai and nobody does anything about it. Other conflicts are in Africa funded in exactly the same way.

What’s the point of international law if it can’t stop that kind of blatant greed.

There is some basic truth in Ramola’s post, excellent analysis in TerriBull’s earlier post

In addition, there’s increasing evidence that many people are actively avoiding our traditional news sources. I confess to being in that group. I’ve long been interested in following the news. Radio 4, ch 4 news, news night etc plus reading newspapers
Increasingly I scan the newspaper, catch headlines on the radio. Watch some of ch4 but often turn off as it’s so distressing
Compassion fatigue, feelings of hopelessness and despair at the inability to influence

It is true that there are always wars being fought across the world. But I think that the reason that the war in Sudan is effectively being ignored is that people don't identify with Sudan in the way that we here regard both Israel and Ukraine as Western nations.
We can be truly shocked by what Israel's government has been doing to Palestinians for decades. And we can identify with Ukraine in her existential struggle.
But - I think- it is hard for people here in Britain to identify with the civil war in Sudan, terrible as it is.

ronib

Gold, iron ore, chromite, and much more available in Sudan.

Indeed! Sudan has the potential to be a wealthy country.

Gold, iron ore, chromite, and much more available in Sudan.

Theatrelover.........Perhaps because in Sudan they are not after the land for real Estate, Gas and Oil. Israel is and has'nt made much of a secret of it.

Oreo

fancythat

I know op.

It has always been thus.

Citizens will concentrate on one or two wars, and ignore all the others. Basically.

Has always perplexed me.

Though as someone said upthread, Sudan is a civil war.

I dont think someone ordinary from the Uk is going to stop them.

Being a civil war doesn’t make it any less worse.I think a sort of fog descends on a lot of peoples brains where Africa is concerned, it may as well be the moon.
Nobody from the UK, either powerful or powerless is ever going to stop any war.The BBC could try for once not to be biased about the wars it chooses to report on and show what’s happening in very many countries including Sudan, Yemen and Syria.

They seem to report a war, civil war or conflict non-stop until another one comes along and the others are successively abandoned by the media.

growstuff

Certainly, if you read old newspapers, conflicts were described in more detail.

What we have now is three minutes of an item "Another 200 people were killed in Gaza/Afghanistan/Sudan/Yemen etc" accompanied by a video of a bomb (which could be anywhere), followed by three minutes of a story about a lost hamster (or something like that).

I don't mind one light-hearted item at the end of a news programme - 'And Finally, Houdini the Hamster has been found two weeks after escaping from his cage' to remind us that there are other, more heartening things going on in the world too.

fancythat

I know op.

It has always been thus.

Citizens will concentrate on one or two wars, and ignore all the others. Basically.

Has always perplexed me.

Though as someone said upthread, Sudan is a civil war.

I dont think someone ordinary from the Uk is going to stop them.

Being a civil war doesn’t make it any less worse.I think a sort of fog descends on a lot of peoples brains where Africa is concerned, it may as well be the moon.
Nobody from the UK, either powerful or powerless is ever going to stop any war.The BBC could try for once not to be biased about the wars it chooses to report on and show what’s happening in very many countries including Sudan, Yemen and Syria.

Black or brown... They're treated the same by the media.

Unfortunately civil wars don't get as much attention as genocide. There's several civil wars currently that don't get much news time, in part because the rest of the world really can't do anything.
But when it comes to genocide and the literal attempt to wipe out an entire group of people then obviously people can do something about it.. As people are trying to do.

Bringing attention to genocide which has been going on for years has caused governments to acknowledge that we're not happy that they're standing by and allowing it, especially when you consider how the world came out in force against Russia. And it's baffling that Russias invasion of Ukraine isn't a patch on what Israel is doing yet they were sanctioned and wealthy Russians had their wealth stolen from them.
Israel is doing much worse yet no government's are even threatening sanctions.

It's nothing to do with being antisemitic and everything to do with the fact they're destroying an entire nation so they can take it for themselves.

Certainly, if you read old newspapers, conflicts were described in more detail.

What we have now is three minutes of an item "Another 200 people were killed in Gaza/Afghanistan/Sudan/Yemen etc" accompanied by a video of a bomb (which could be anywhere), followed by three minutes of a story about a lost hamster (or something like that).

Allira

^Looking back, no-one has bothered very much about reporting conflicts, disasters etc. in Africa during my lifetime, and I will be 74 this year.^

I can certainly remember wars, conflicts and famine in Africa and am not that much older than you.
Who can forget Band Aid, The Great Blue Peter Bring and Buy Sale?
Apartheid in S Africa, monumental changes in other African countries?

The sad thing is that, despite all the money raised, how much ever changes? 😥
They were well publicupuwed

Ironically I think things were better reported, prior to 24 hours of rolling news.
Plus journalists used to report from front lines.
Not in some studio in a different Country.
Or behind desks.